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Old May 26, 2021 | 07:17 PM
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To my multipiece wheel guys or anyone that could lend some insight. I've narrowed my wheel choices down to either a set of SSR SP4's or Work Zistance W5S.

My question is can I run a standard disk on the front (NR disk =SSR / A-disk =Work) if I don't plan on ever running a BBK?

Also can anyone tell me if the stock wheel studs are long enough to run a small spacer (3-5mm at most)?

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Old May 27, 2021 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dubless
To my multipiece wheel guys or anyone that could lend some insight. I've narrowed my wheel choices down to either a set of SSR SP4's or Work Zistance W5S.

My question is can I run a standard disk on the front (NR disk =SSR / A-disk =Work) if I don't plan on ever running a BBK?

Also can anyone tell me if the stock wheel studs are long enough to run a small spacer (3-5mm at most)?

Thanks guys!
Even though wheel size was not specified, those designs shouldn't pose in issue. The main concern would be the offset, which could result in the wheel hitting the caliper. Also, 3-5mm spacers are good to go on the stock studs. Here's a thread that may be helpful: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-spacer-s.html
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Old May 27, 2021 | 09:05 AM
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Even though wheel size was not specified, those designs shouldn't pose in issue. The main concern would be the offset, which could result in the wheel hitting the caliper. Also, 3-5mm spacers are good to go on the stock studs. Here's a thread that may be helpful: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-spacer-s.html

Thanks for the reply! I'm looking at some mildly aggressive offsets to maximize the lip size. 20 x 9.5 +18 Front and 9.5 +5 Rear.
I just don't like the differences in looks between the Low (typically rear) and High (typically front) disk faces. If I could run a Standard or even Low (with a small spacer) disk on the front I'd be happy.
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Old May 27, 2021 | 09:16 AM
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Disk size (Hi/R/etc) and offset both need to be sorted out while considering width and tire size. Spacers I avoid.
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Old May 27, 2021 | 10:29 AM
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Disk size (Hi/R/etc) and offset both need to be sorted out while considering width and tire size. Spacers I avoid.
Thanks for replying. I agree disk type and offset both are factored in when finalizing the fitment. At the same time I'm also trying to maximize lip depth for aesthetic purposes, hence the fairly aggressive offsets. Fenders will be trimmed to suit. Also never had issues running small, 5mm or less, spacers on some of my other vehicles. As long as there's enough engagement of the hub protrusion and stud length allow for more than 6 turns on the lugs. But I guess this would also depend on the disk type/offset as well. It used to be when ordering custom wheels, the mfg would include detailed info such as hub to spoke clearances for the difference disk types. I know WEDS still does this. But for for some reason I can't find that info for SSR or WORK. And forget asking people what disk type/offsets they're using as , for some "reason", guys running great fitment don't want to share their specs LOL.
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Originally Posted by dubless
Thanks for the reply! I'm looking at some mildly aggressive offsets to maximize the lip size. 20 x 9.5 +18 Front and 9.5 +5 Rear.
I just don't like the differences in looks between the Low (typically rear) and High (typically front) disk faces. If I could run a Standard or even Low (with a small spacer) disk on the front I'd be happy.
With those low offsets, I wouldn't think any spacers are necessary (unless of course your goal is to reduce offset further). And as you mentioned, you may have to trim/roll the fenders. This calculator may give some insight in to what you may expect: Online Wheel and Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit, Wheel Size: 20", Wheel Width: 9.5"
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Old May 27, 2021 | 12:28 PM
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Also check out Taran's 20" Work Schwert SC2 set up, as his wheel sizes/offsets are the closest I've seen to what you're planning (post #120): https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-thread-8.html
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Originally Posted by lwphat66
Also check out Taran's 20" Work Schwert SC2 set up, as his wheel sizes/offsets are the closest I've seen to what you're planning (post #120): https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-thread-8.html
Thanks for replying! Yes I saw Taran's set up and I think it looks great! The one thing I didn't notice when glossing over his specs are that he's using an A disk which is Work's version of a Normal disk. That gives me hope LOL . Maybe he'll see this thread and reply on whether or not he had to use a spacer to clear his front brakes.
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Thanks for replying! Yes I saw Taran's set up and I think it looks great! The one thing I didn't notice when glossing over his specs are that he's using an A disk which is Work's version of a Normal disk. That gives me hope LOL . Maybe he'll see this thread and reply on whether or not he had to use a spacer to clear his front brakes.
You're welcome brother! Yup, I had noticed his detailed info included the disks he's running, so was hoping you'd catch that. Looking forward to seeing pics once you get everything buttoned up.
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Originally Posted by dubless
Thanks for replying. I agree disk type and offset both are factored in when finalizing the fitment. At the same time I'm also trying to maximize lip depth for aesthetic purposes, hence the fairly aggressive offsets. Fenders will be trimmed to suit. Also never had issues running small, 5mm or less, spacers on some of my other vehicles. As long as there's enough engagement of the hub protrusion and stud length allow for more than 6 turns on the lugs. But I guess this would also depend on the disk type/offset as well. It used to be when ordering custom wheels, the mfg would include detailed info such as hub to spoke clearances for the difference disk types. I know WEDS still does this. But for for some reason I can't find that info for SSR or WORK. And forget asking people what disk type/offsets they're using as , for some "reason", guys running great fitment don't want to share their specs LOL.
I have always found this hilarious!
What's the point of keeping it secret? The entire community can benefit from sharing knowledge with one another!


Originally Posted by dubless
Thanks for replying! Yes I saw Taran's set up and I think it looks great! The one thing I didn't notice when glossing over his specs are that he's using an A disk which is Work's version of a Normal disk. That gives me hope LOL . Maybe he'll see this thread and reply on whether or not he had to use a spacer to clear his front brakes.
The Work wheels I had were A-disk. There was very little clearance between the spoke and the brake caliper (about a credit card thick). I ran the setup for about 2 years (I drive the car very little) before I moved on to something else.
As for running a 2-3mm spacer, the studs are long enough but the hubs are tiny, so the spacer may fit but the wheel wont have any hub to sit / center on.

I'll attach a picture of how close the caliper sat to the spokes.

Hope this helps.


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Thanks for replying Taran! That info and your picture helps a alot.

It looks like I'll be good to go on a standard disk face, worst case I can add a 2-3mm spacer.
But since the hub protrusion is small, as you mentioned, I'll probably request some non-chamfered hub centric rings.
That way way I can ensure some wheel engagement on the hub.

Thanks again!
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Im not too worried about offsets and sizing... Leon Hardiritt/SSR 20x9.5+26 hi disk and 10.5 +29 standard disk. They came out this size after a flip and rebuild. I wish offsets were closer to 20. I chose a tire size to avoid fender work. In the past I’ve machined down H&R spacers to get the 7mm I needed and the hub centric fit. Correct hub bore was crucial so there was no chance of negative feedback through the wheel. I always aimed to get 7 turns on the lug 😂 With the 6 pot Brembos I wasnt willing to risk any other disk face and only BBK clearance.


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Old Jun 2, 2021 | 03:00 PM
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That fitment looks great! Are your camber adjustments still within spec? Yeah If I had a big brake kit I wouldn't be looking at anything other than an hi disk for sure. But I've got the basic non-Fsport brakes so I'm hoping they'll give me more room for a standard disk.
I just received an email reply from Work Wheels USA and they confirmed their standard A-Disk W5S will fit on the front of my LS non-Fsport. Just waiting for a response from SSR on their SP4 clearance before pulling the trigger. The spoke designs are similar between the two that I'm almost certain they'll fit. But better safe than sorry.

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Im not too worried about offsets and sizing... Leon Hardiritt/SSR 20x9.5+26 hi disk and 10.5 +29 standard disk. They came out this size after a flip and rebuild. I wish offsets were closer to 20. I chose a tire size to avoid fender work. In the past I’ve machined down H&R spacers to get the 7mm I needed and the hub centric fit. Correct hub bore was crucial so there was no chance of negative feedback through the wheel. I always aimed to get 7 turns on the lug 😂 With the 6 pot Brembos I wasnt willing to risk any other disk face and only BBK clearance.


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The standard 4 pot is still considered BBK. The Factory Brembo’s are very similar in size. Im curious to see if Standard disk sizing works for you. Ive always needed BBK disk on LS brakes but with various wheel design its possible. The time I ran standard disk I needed that 7mm spacer and new studs. What size are you considering?

Alignment is within spec. 2 degrees rear and 1.6 front.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 04:23 PM
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I'm planning on 20x9.5 +18 NR disk front and 20x9.5 +5 SL disk rear. My vehicle is a 2014 base non - Fsport and I guess, since the factory brakes are a monoblock, they could be considered a bbk. The wheels I'm planning are either the Work W5S or the SSR SP4.
I actually received confirmation from both companies, that for these particular designs, I can clear factory brakes on the LS. I plan to pull the trigger on a set this week!

Originally Posted by VanCityLS4
The standard 4 pot is still considered BBK. The Factory Brembo’s are very similar in size. Im curious to see if Standard disk sizing works for you. Ive always needed BBK disk on LS brakes but with various wheel design its possible. The time I ran standard disk I needed that 7mm spacer and new studs. What size are you considering?

Alignment is within spec. 2 degrees rear and 1.6 front.
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