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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 07:08 PM
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Here is what Car and Driver is saying about the 2021 LS500.

2021 Lexus LS500's Edgy Styling Belies Its Soft Side (msn.com)

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That interior is hideous.
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That interior is hideous.
That red into is definitely not for me. Disturbing. That’s luxury? No wonder they can give the new LS away.
Old Dec 12, 2020 | 03:56 AM
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I’ll tell you what...the car is really growing on me.

When it first came out I hated it - thought it looked like a Nissan Maxima on steroids - but I’ve seen a few on the roads around me and quite honestly it is a head Turner. It is noticeably big and stunning. It doesn’t really look like anything I see on the streets...it’s long, it’s aggressive in the front and the rear looks better than I thought. It kind of ties together nicely.

The interior I thought was always ahead of it’s time - and I really didn’t like it - but now? Again it’s kind of caught up (or everything else has caught up to IT and it fits now).

I used to prefer the Genesis for this segment...thought their styling was very good, thought the value was good and thought the drivetrain was good. And it is, but I’ve been in a few since and they are still a Hyundai. You can feel it inside on the plastic. You can see it as the interiors scratch up and buttons give way. My friend has one, it doesn’t feel or look special anymore. It’s ordinary. The LS500 isn’t.

I’ll buy an LS500 in a heartbeat when the prices come down in the used market (if they are reliable). They’ve grown on me. They intrigue me quite a bit now. I think Lexus was ahead of the curve here...and I think it’ll be a very hot used vehicle buy.
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Trying to attract younger buyers with $90k car, it is just a poor market research. Majority of original LS owners are older people and, it seems, Lexus keeps forgetting that. Instead of making it sportier, they should work on reliability which allows to extend warranty and grow trust in the brand.
Old Dec 12, 2020 | 10:56 AM
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Like a middle-aged man donning a hypebeast wardrobe in a desperate attempt to appear more youthful than he is, the LS500's overtly aggressive appearance doesn't match what's underneath. Opting for the F Sport model exacerbates the issue, adding bigger dark-gray wheels, black grille inserts, sport seats, and a more aggressive front spoiler. Why?
I had an old-school family friend who said the phrase in the 60's was "If it don't go, chrome it" - that sounds like the LS500. Personally, I'm OK with a car that looks sporty but isn't... how many owners in 2020 are likely to hustle their car hard enough to matter?
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I've always liked the look of the LS500, what I don't like is the firmer ride, louder cabin, lack of a V8 and less interior space. Visually the only thing I don't like about this refresh is the tacked on touchscreen. If they can recapture the nice ride and the quieter cabin then that will be a big improvement.
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Originally Posted by Anfanger
Trying to attract younger buyers with $90k car, it is just a poor market research. Majority of original LS owners are older people and, it seems, Lexus keeps forgetting that. Instead of making it sportier, they should work on reliability which allows to extend warranty and grow trust in the brand.

Because holding on the an aging demo did wonders for Cadillac, Pontiac, Harley.....
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Because holding on the an aging demo did wonders for Cadillac, Pontiac, Harley.....
I think you can do both. The issue is younger people don't buy these cars. If people under 40 buy a $100,000 car its not a fullsized luxury sedan. So, the question really is what do 55-65 year old people want?
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Exactly!

"This is not your Fathers LEXUS"

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Originally Posted by xfea
Exactly!

"This is not your Fathers LEXUS"
Except that literally what I want is my fathers Lexus lol. And their choices with the LS500 lost them a 22 year customer. The Lexus LS should stay the Lexus LS. If they want a sportier, more dynamic sedan slot a model in under that. Or create a much sportier and more dynamic F Sport version and leave the plan version largely what it always has been.

In shopping for my S Class, 7 Series, etc the LS500 is notorious for being traded in on this, the 7, A8 etc because longtime LS buyers bought them and weren't happy. No carmaker should ever change the recipe of a model that drastically.

If the LS500 had been an improvement on what the LS always was, I wouldn't have even looked at a Mercedes I would have just gotten another one.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Except that literally what I want is my fathers Lexus lol. And their choices with the LS500 lost them a 22 year customer. The Lexus LS should stay the Lexus LS. If they want a sportier, more dynamic sedan slot a model in under that. Or create a much sportier and more dynamic F Sport version and leave the plan version largely what it always has been.

In shopping for my S Class, 7 Series, etc the LS500 is notorious for being traded in on this, the 7, A8 etc because longtime LS buyers bought them and weren't happy. No carmaker should ever change the recipe of a model that drastically.

If the LS500 had been an improvement on what the LS always was, I wouldn't have even looked at a Mercedes I would have just gotten another one.
Thank you! I believe, we share vision of LS and who are the buyers.
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The Mercedes and the BMW dealer both told me they get LS500s with 1,000 miles on them on trade on the regular.
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what lexus did with the ls500 is disturbing
a shame

look at the ls500 forum for over 2 years, the amount of love and passion in the threads is about 1/100 th of normal LS models
Old Dec 12, 2020 | 06:01 PM
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Folks we have a 5LS forum for 5LS topics please.
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