Notices
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017) Discussion topics related to the current flagship models LS460, LS460L and LS600H

Control Arm Issue?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 3, 2016 | 06:48 AM
  #16  
fooldall1's Avatar
fooldall1
Thread Starter
Rookie
 
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 88
Likes: 8
From: Florida
Talking

Thanks for the replies, All.

I am inclined to TRY to replace them myself, I really am.

Is there a full writeup/HowTo for this work?
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2016 | 07:07 AM
  #17  
fooldall1's Avatar
fooldall1
Thread Starter
Rookie
 
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 88
Likes: 8
From: Florida
Default

Also, since price is a concern for me right now... Should I just do the lowers, or all the front?
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2016 | 08:19 AM
  #18  
superdenso's Avatar
superdenso
Instructor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 758
Likes: 26
From: INACTIVE
Default

Originally Posted by fooldall1
Also, since price is a concern for me right now... Should I just do the lowers, or all the front?
You can do it! A write up is attached.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-4th-gen-2007-present/830530-ls460-control-arm-diy-upper-and-lower-with-torque-spec-s.html
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2016 | 05:10 PM
  #19  
roadfrog's Avatar
roadfrog
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 5,371
Likes: 526
From: BC Canada
Default

lol you really don't like BMW (consistently)
That is correct. As I have been burned badly TWICE now, I will never let it go and have made sure to warn everyone else. Consider it my.... "holy quest".
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2016 | 05:33 PM
  #20  
Nospinzone's Avatar
Nospinzone
CL Community Team
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,264
Likes: 481
From: MA
Default

BTW, the OP originally titled the thread "Brake Actuator Issue?", but since it is now determined to be a control arm issue, I changed the title.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2016 | 05:49 PM
  #21  
Doublebase's Avatar
Doublebase
Pole Position
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,561
Likes: 365
From: New Hampshire
Default

Originally Posted by fooldall1
Also, since price is a concern for me right now... Should I just do the lowers, or all the front?
Call me crazy, but if price is an issue I'd just change the ones that are bad. Why not? People do this all the time...only change the things that are broken on their suspensions.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2016 | 06:53 PM
  #22  
2v1g's Avatar
2v1g
Intermediate
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 422
Likes: 4
From: MN
Default

That is why I always buy the warranty right away when buying pre-owned Lexus LS
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2016 | 07:37 PM
  #23  
superdenso's Avatar
superdenso
Instructor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 758
Likes: 26
From: INACTIVE
Default

Originally Posted by Doublebase
Call me crazy, but if price is an issue I'd just change the ones that are bad. Why not? People do this all the time...only change the things that are broken on their suspensions.
The reason you address them all is because it's a pain to begin with so why do it twice...and the ball joints, with their rubber boots, are easily damaged. If you go at it yourself, $500-$700 is within reason.

Last edited by superdenso; Oct 4, 2016 at 03:53 AM.
Reply
ClubLexus Stories

Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe

story-0

10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

 Brett Foote
story-7

GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

 Brett Foote
Old Oct 4, 2016 | 04:25 PM
  #24  
Doublebase's Avatar
Doublebase
Pole Position
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,561
Likes: 365
From: New Hampshire
Default

Originally Posted by superdenso
The reason you address them all is because it's a pain to begin with so why do it twice...and the ball joints, with their rubber boots, are easily damaged. If you go at it yourself, $500-$700 is within reason.
I guess I'm in the school of thought that you don't need to replace every single damn piece of a front suspension unless you have to. I see cars come in all the time that need a control arm, it doesn't mean I need to replace the other arm, all the ball joints, sway bar links...because where does it end? I understand what you're saying, but I did my arms and half of them looked fine. I was throwing away control arms that were good.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2016 | 06:07 PM
  #25  
superdenso's Avatar
superdenso
Instructor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 758
Likes: 26
From: INACTIVE
Default

Originally Posted by Doublebase
I guess I'm in the school of thought that you don't need to replace every single damn piece of a front suspension unless you have to. I see cars come in all the time that need a control arm, it doesn't mean I need to replace the other arm, all the ball joints, sway bar links...because where does it end? I understand what you're saying, but I did my arms and half of them looked fine. I was throwing away control arms that were good.
I understand your point. If it didn't require so much of a tear down I would have changed the uppers only.

Also, if a Lexus service dept gets wind all arms were not replaced they will add that diagnosis w/declined repair to your service history. Then you're back at it again.

for now I like the poly bushing press in method if you have the time. Take off all arms/service bushings & re-install
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 06:55 PM
  #26  
fooldall1's Avatar
fooldall1
Thread Starter
Rookie
 
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 88
Likes: 8
From: Florida
Default

SuperDenso, Thanks for the pointer to the writeup. I am sorely tempted to try it myself. My friend says I'm nuts for trying it myself, so I think I will probably pay someone *this* time and watch how the job is done.

Actually, I've been told by the Audi dealership to bring it back in to the service dept (1.5hrs away) and they will look at it again, and let me know "what they'll do". I'm sure all that means is that they might cover HALF, which- at the end of the day, is kind of a win.

Sort of.


Assuming I did pay a local shop to do the repairs.. I would just start with the LOWERS, right?- It seems those are the main culprits in these issues- no? I simply can't afford all of the arm this time around, and at least I will have time to save some $$ for the other repair (the front uppers).


What do you guys think of something like this?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-Brand-N...tWdIih&vxp=mtr
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2016 | 01:15 AM
  #27  
ManXP's Avatar
ManXP
Driver
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 179
Likes: 1
From: N/A
Default

Got the same problem recently. My lower bushings were replaced about a year ago, but the problem came just a few months ago, and dealer told me upper bushings need to be replaced as well. They changed upper bushings in one side, and the problem isn't that bad now. However, another side needs to be replaced as well, will do it this weekend.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2016 | 07:51 AM
  #28  
superdenso's Avatar
superdenso
Instructor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 758
Likes: 26
From: INACTIVE
Default

If you don't get any help and can remove the arms without damaging the boots the total parts cost is $250. Then you could take all arms to a machine shop to have the old bushings pressed out and the new poly bushings pressed in. The warranty is lifetime. So if you end up fitting the bill, the cost is not outrageous. I have 2,500 miles on the poly bushings and they are a pleasant surprise.

https://shopasd.com/collections/ls460
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2016 | 05:56 PM
  #29  
2v1g's Avatar
2v1g
Intermediate
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 422
Likes: 4
From: MN
Default

I saw a SUV stopped on the road today. Is the control arm broken?
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2016 | 08:19 PM
  #30  
superdenso's Avatar
superdenso
Instructor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 758
Likes: 26
From: INACTIVE
Default

Looks like the Ford Edge lost the lower ball joint. The knuckle separated from the lower control arm. There appears to be only a lower control arm on this design. And the part you see hanging is the CV joint. From this pic, it looks like 300 to 500 to repair.

Last edited by superdenso; Oct 6, 2016 at 08:23 PM.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:35 AM.

story-0
10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Some luxury cars chase trends, but these Lexus models look better now than they did when they first rolled into showrooms.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 17:58:29


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

Slideshow: How to Get the Best Fuel Economy with a Hybrid and Plug-In Hybrid!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-05 20:54:44


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

Slideshow: 10 best Lexus models no one remembers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 17:33:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

Slideshow: diving into 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium's pricing, performance, fuel economy, features, and amenities!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-23 13:09:18


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

Slideshow: the 10 Lexus and Toyota vehicles you need to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-23 10:34:24


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

Slideshow: Top 10 Lexus/Toyota models with the lowest 5-year depreciation rate.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 12:19:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

The LC hasn't even disappeared from the Lexus lineup yet, and we're already seeing signs of an explosive market.

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-06 09:25:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

Slideshow: comparing the pricings, specs, power, fuel economy, fun-factor, and features of the GX 550 Luxury+ and TX 550h+ Luxury.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-19 13:44:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

Slideshow: 9 best Lexus models you can buy for half price and 1 you should avoid

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-19 12:01:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

Here's everything you need to know about the latest NX.

By Brett Foote | 2026-03-19 11:56:59


VIEW MORE