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Old 04-07-16, 07:01 PM
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I've had both, but my LS was a 1994 back in 1996, great vehicle and seemed bullet proof. My LX's have been 2-2004's a 2005 and a 2011. So I have more experience with LX models for several 100k of miles. I know the LX models are one of the most dependable vehicles made. Toyota head engineer stated the LX was designed to last 25 years in a third world country. Love the LS but based on owner posts it does not seem Toyota is building them now as well as they did my 1994. Would like to pickup a LS460 but question if they are the vehicle I remembered?
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They've got more stuff that can break, if that's what you mean.
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Its still regarded as one of the most reliable cars you can buy. The early 460s have some trouble spots, control arms on cars 07-10 and brake actuators. If you get one with the new control arms (a late 2010+) you should be great. They do have more to go wrong, but then so does a modern LX.

My 2015 LS460 is every bit as good a car as my LS430 and LS400 were.
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if you talk about pure reliability and long lasting, i would still put my money in the LX

and especially if you put resale in the equation as well
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I'd concur on the LX purchase.

New they both are "roughly" the same cost, but the LX holds tremendous resale value advantages. While this is a few month old data, here in the Dallas area a CPO 2011 LX was mid $40s whereas used 2011 (non CPO) LS460's were in the $30s.

I think the sweet spot now is finding a pre-owned 2013 (if you are not purchasing new) in terms of value and modern amnesties.
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The LX new is considerably more expensive than the LS. Yes the LS can be as expensive, but most aren't. You also can't compare a CPO LX to a non CPO LS. Just the CPO inflates values as much as 10-12%
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In my experience and opinion I'd say the LX450 of yesteryear was by far the most dependable and reliable vehicle I have ever owned. I would guess that the straight 6 was the reason, not too sure how well a V8 would compare head to head. Sure there's a ton and I mean a ton of more on demand power but I don;t think I could ever get 300k miles out of an LX570.

With that being said I would feel the LS is considered the flagship and think you ought to grab one.
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I'm not certain of the point of this thread. Do you want one of the finest sedans on the market or an eight-passenger behemoth to shuttle your lonely *** around town? Since I didn't need to shuttle around a family of five (or more) it was an easy decision to go with the LS.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Jekyll
In my experience and opinion I'd say the LX450 of yesteryear was by far the most dependable and reliable vehicle I have ever owned. I would guess that the straight 6 was the reason, not too sure how well a V8 would compare head to head. Sure there's a ton and I mean a ton of more on demand power but I don;t think I could ever get 300k miles out of an LX570.

With that being said I would feel the LS is considered the flagship and think you ought to grab one.
I'm well over 460k now my my LX470. Not a single issue so far.
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As much as I'd have liked to buy an LX, The economics of it didn't suit me.

The LS gets 25+mpg highway at an average of 75mph (65-85)

The LX does not.
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Originally Posted by litesoarer
As much as I'd have liked to buy an LX, The economics of it didn't suit me.

The LS gets 25+mpg highway at an average of 75mph (65-85)

The LX does not.
My LX450 with 35" tires got me 8 mph on a really really really great day...
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I'm looking for reliability and dependablity. The LX470 was built to last 25 years in a 3rd World country and its normal for a 100 series to go 300k+ miles including off road usage with just normal maintance. I don't expect this from a 2013 LS460 but I would like to see 250k miles of trouble free miles with factory recommended service and not be left stranded. Is this reasonable?
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Originally Posted by Max707
I'm looking for reliability and dependablity. The LX470 was built to last 25 years in a 3rd World country and its normal for a 100 series to go 300k+ miles including off road usage with just normal maintance. I don't expect this from a 2013 LS460 but I would like to see 250k miles of trouble free miles with factory recommended service and not be left stranded. Is this reasonable?
I don't see why not. These are solid cars.
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Very reasonable to expect that mechanically. The electronics are another matter, but you would have the same issue in a modern LX
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Originally Posted by Dr. Jekyll
My LX450 with 35" tires got me 8 mph on a really really really great day...
8 mph ... wow, that IS pretty slow. But I guess in Hawaii, maybe you have to go pretty slow our you may hit the dead-end too soon and run off into the ocean!
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