2008 LS 460 wind noise from front windows
06-10-14, 04:17 PM
#31
The silicone did well to renew the life of the rubber the window slides into. Mine had gotten stretched out of place and warped some because it had dried out. That's what it's designed to do on scuba gear...keep the rubber pliable. It also lubricated the tracks which allowed the window to fully seat up into the gasket (which it wasn't before).
06-10-14, 04:18 PM
#32
Pole Position
06-10-14, 05:38 PM
#33
All dive shops would carry it and you can find it online.
Last edited by jbrittmart; 06-10-14 at 05:43 PM.
06-10-14, 06:51 PM
#34
The silicone did well to renew the life of the rubber the window slides into. Mine had gotten stretched out of place and warped some because it had dried out. That's what it's designed to do on scuba gear...keep the rubber pliable. It also lubricated the tracks which allowed the window to fully seat up into the gasket (which it wasn't before). I find it's good to reapply the silicone every few months or so... it only takes a couple minutes so I usually do it after a washing.
But yeah, once I cleaned out the window track really well (mine had gotten pretty filthy) and then applied the grease in the track on the rubber pieces and the edge of the window... my car is like a vault. Like I said, I'll notice after a few months sometimes that I get some noise back... but when I reapply and the window slides slick and true it seats fully in the gasket and bingo... silence.
But yeah, once I cleaned out the window track really well (mine had gotten pretty filthy) and then applied the grease in the track on the rubber pieces and the edge of the window... my car is like a vault. Like I said, I'll notice after a few months sometimes that I get some noise back... but when I reapply and the window slides slick and true it seats fully in the gasket and bingo... silence.
06-11-14, 06:56 AM
#35
Here is a link to exactly what I used. Works great, and looks like I won't have to replace my window rubber molding after all. http://m.napaonline.com/tablet//part...946_0006436593
Last edited by is150; 06-12-14 at 09:40 PM.
06-14-14, 04:03 PM
#37
Pole Position
Wind noise
When you say the triangle fix didn't work ... I take it you mean the mcraney fix with metal triangles and a whole pile of silicone ?? I don't believe that works or indeed is the major source of noise . If you put the current model LS triangular stabilizer fins on , your noise will stop .. I promise
06-14-14, 05:09 PM
#38
I didn't have much wind noise. However, I put the new piece that has the raised triangle on. I cannot say if it fixed anything, BUT I didn't goop it up with any additional silicone or epoxy. It's very quiet in my car , and don't think I had the wind noise from the start, but I feel better that I upgraded the part for 34.00. I also don't have the folding up seal that some are puting the silicone.
I guess I didn't need the wing fix nor the mcraney fix, but I now have two cool looking wings by my mirrors!
AND
A quiet car!
I guess I didn't need the wing fix nor the mcraney fix, but I now have two cool looking wings by my mirrors!
AND
A quiet car!
06-15-14, 10:49 AM
#40
06-15-14, 11:25 AM
#41
Wish I would have taken a picture of it folded before I applied the 3m silicone. But it's the vertical seal seen here of the front door. Still sort of see the crease. If it's folded some of the seal will be folded under the window, usually towards the top. Applying the silicone fixed my folded seal and cured my wind noise 100%.
Last edited by is150; 06-15-14 at 02:02 PM.
06-15-14, 10:31 PM
#43
I've been mildly annoyed by the wind buffeting noises in my '07 since purchasing it a few weeks ago. I immediately replaced the original triangle trim pieces with some 2013 pieces from Sewell. They did not have any perceivable effect. Wind buffeting noise still creeps up starting around 50mph. Today I took a stab at cleaning up the window tracks and applying the 3M silicone paste. I did not have the folded trim problem and this did not affect the wind noise at all. In my car, bumping the window down a little bit creates wind noise as opposed to improving it. I am starting to think I may be chasing something unattainable, but I did not put silicone glue under the triangle trim, so perhaps that should be my next attempt. I'd really like to know what's different in the 2011/2012 models if they are supposedly problem free.
I should note that in my test drives, it is some sort of turbulence that creates the noise. I can drive south on a stretch of road at 55mph and there will be noise, but driving north on the same road at the same speed and there will be no noise. The noise increases in intensity and consistency at higher speeds and is fairly annoying at 80mph. Note also that I tend to perceive the buffeting noise as coming from the top of the glass as opposed to the front corner where the triangle trim piece is so I was suspecting possibly a window seal issue, but that could also just be how the turbulence hits the window/trim in that area? I'd really like to better understand a characterization of the type of noise the triangle trim mod is supposed to fix and how much wind buffeting noise I am expected to live with! I do not have the laminated glass but the car was out of warranty 45k miles ago and I hate the idea of them tearing it apart, paying $1400 and having it only knock down the noise level a couple of dB... :-/
I should note that in my test drives, it is some sort of turbulence that creates the noise. I can drive south on a stretch of road at 55mph and there will be noise, but driving north on the same road at the same speed and there will be no noise. The noise increases in intensity and consistency at higher speeds and is fairly annoying at 80mph. Note also that I tend to perceive the buffeting noise as coming from the top of the glass as opposed to the front corner where the triangle trim piece is so I was suspecting possibly a window seal issue, but that could also just be how the turbulence hits the window/trim in that area? I'd really like to better understand a characterization of the type of noise the triangle trim mod is supposed to fix and how much wind buffeting noise I am expected to live with! I do not have the laminated glass but the car was out of warranty 45k miles ago and I hate the idea of them tearing it apart, paying $1400 and having it only knock down the noise level a couple of dB... :-/
Last edited by Trumpanche; 06-15-14 at 10:39 PM.
06-15-14, 11:28 PM
#44
Pole Position
Noise fix
I've been mildly annoyed by the wind buffeting noises in my '07 since purchasing it a few weeks ago. I immediately replaced the original triangle trim pieces with some 2013 pieces from Sewell. They did not have any perceivable effect. Wind buffeting noise still creeps up starting around 50mph. Today I took a stab at cleaning up the window tracks and applying the 3M silicone paste. I did not have the folded trim problem and this did not affect the wind noise at all. In my car, bumping the window down a little bit creates wind noise as opposed to improving it. I am starting to think I may be chasing something unattainable, but I did not put silicone glue under the triangle trim, so perhaps that should be my next attempt. I'd really like to know what's different in the 2011/2012 models if they are supposedly problem free.
I should note that in my test drives, it is some sort of turbulence that creates the noise. I can drive south on a stretch of road at 55mph and there will be noise, but driving north on the same road at the same speed and there will be no noise. The noise increases in intensity and consistency at higher speeds and is fairly annoying at 80mph. Note also that I tend to perceive the buffeting noise as coming from the top of the glass as opposed to the front corner where the triangle trim piece is so I was suspecting possibly a window seal issue, but that could also just be how the turbulence hits the window/trim in that area? I'd really like to better understand a characterization of the type of noise the triangle trim mod is supposed to fix and how much wind buffeting noise I am expected to live with! I do not have the laminated glass but the car was out of warranty 45k miles ago and I hate the idea of them tearing it apart, paying $1400 and having it only knock down the noise level a couple of dB... :-/
I should note that in my test drives, it is some sort of turbulence that creates the noise. I can drive south on a stretch of road at 55mph and there will be noise, but driving north on the same road at the same speed and there will be no noise. The noise increases in intensity and consistency at higher speeds and is fairly annoying at 80mph. Note also that I tend to perceive the buffeting noise as coming from the top of the glass as opposed to the front corner where the triangle trim piece is so I was suspecting possibly a window seal issue, but that could also just be how the turbulence hits the window/trim in that area? I'd really like to better understand a characterization of the type of noise the triangle trim mod is supposed to fix and how much wind buffeting noise I am expected to live with! I do not have the laminated glass but the car was out of warranty 45k miles ago and I hate the idea of them tearing it apart, paying $1400 and having it only knock down the noise level a couple of dB... :-/
The current cars are different only so far as having completely different shaped side mirrors and are silent in all the models I've driven . I don't think the window seals do anything and can't see how they could possibly be damaged . Silicon is only going to make the window perhaps go up and down a little easier but once there up does nothing .
I would try the goop behind your triangles first as everyone else seems to have the problem solved with the triangles alone .. Then maybe see what 2 new current spec mirrors cost
Good luck
06-16-14, 02:11 AM
#45
Go to Lowes Or Home Depot and buy you a wide roll of masking tape.
Apply the masking tape to the area where you feel the wind and/or turbulence is coming from. Start with just the pieces over the triangle. Make sure you cover the outside edges of the triangle. This way you can eliminate the need to put all the goop under the triangle.
Drive...see if there is any noticeable change.
Then, move to the window seals, cover them completely!
Drive...see if there is any noticeable change.
Then, move to the door seals, cover them completely. Get in from the passenger side.
Drive...see if there is any noticeable change.
Process of elimination!
Apply the masking tape to the area where you feel the wind and/or turbulence is coming from. Start with just the pieces over the triangle. Make sure you cover the outside edges of the triangle. This way you can eliminate the need to put all the goop under the triangle.
Drive...see if there is any noticeable change.
Then, move to the window seals, cover them completely!
Drive...see if there is any noticeable change.
Then, move to the door seals, cover them completely. Get in from the passenger side.
Drive...see if there is any noticeable change.
Process of elimination!