Many of you know I'm not a big fan of the spindle but it is better executed on this new LS than the 4GS. Much better. It's just so wide and open but it is dynamic and bold. It could be a face that only a mother could love....or a face that changes the future of Lexus. Only time will tell.
The rest of the LS looks familiar. This means they didn't change much. Some will like that, some won't. I always liked that car and since I never had one, I'm ok with the familiarity.

I do think the car will do well. It's more like the other brands in that it is the flag ship of Lexus but now with a bold, controversial spindle grill. Benz, Audi and BMW all have that family similarity and it looks like Lexus is following suit.

Lexus used to be known for leading the pack. For being different. Now they are following the others. That part I don''t like.

 

Not happy with the new LS. I wasn't happy with the new GS. Kudos that they running with a new grill for all models but take away the front end and both cars have too many similarities to their respective previous generation. I was anticipating getting the new LS but now I'm not sure. Going to hold off a bit - maybe the 2013 will grow on me. But the fact that I'm now considering a Jaguar XJ or the Audi A7 doesn't say much on how ultra conservative Lexus designers have become.

 

Couldn't agee wth you more. But I think it looks like the PREDATOR's mouth from the Arnold Schwartzenneger movie

 

I dont know what it is but it kind of reminds me of darth vader. It would be cool to have a black on black LS with the license plate DTHSTAR

 

Lol, after awhile u will get used to it because u will start seeing more of them on the road just like all the retro domestic cars camaros, challengers ,and mustangs eventually the blend in.

 

I third that! I've owned many Benzes, Audis and a VW. Nothing but aggravation. Lexus=no grief.

 

I know you guys aren't too fond of the spindle grill design language Lexus has taken up, but I love it! Look at BMW's M cars, they are just as aggressive but with less lines that flow well, unlike the new spindle grilled Lexus's with nice sharp flowing lines. Love the refresh inside and outside. Classy and aggressive, but the LS really needs more power, especially on the F-Sport model. I’m sure the power is adequate, but a premium flagship car like this with it’s high premium car MSRP should have at least 400+HP considering today’s standards.

 

hehee, someone is thinking about his next car already

sorry to hear about your problems with the dealership service, i agree that can make big difference. fwiw, 06-11 had been a dip on lexus in terms of quality, i am seeing their quality improving quite a bit in the ct and 4gs already. so i somewhat expect the same on this new interior

my s550 is just a bone stock silver, really nothing exciting to write home about. my kids have kept me busy enough to not think much on mods.

yeah, some people they just keep believing this is 5ls. i would give this 4.5ls at most, just like porsche with the well-known 997.5.

i am interested to see how driving is changed on the 2013 ls. it's the same chassis and similar suspension structure. what minor tweaks here and there can do, that's going to be fun.

what i am interested is how long lexus is going to stay with this 4ls bone, another 2-3 years? or another 5-6 years? i HOPE they go for 2-3 years, that gives them time to stretch out all the new car release and easier on the marketing (big help), give them more time on the 5ls, and able to get "ahead" of competitors more.

another 5-6 years on this would be way too long. things will be really dated by then, and lexus will hit the problem of having too many cars released at the same time again.

on the power, it's really hard to say. for NA setup, it might cost lexus too much to maintain two power setup, one for a lower production f-sport. overall i am ok with same power train, but different styling, few exclusive options (like now), different suspensions, etc...
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I don't why people are complaining about the horsepower of the 2013 LS. Does anyone know the specs for the 2011 Audi A8. It has 372 hp and 0-60 in the mid fives. So anyone who is complaining needs to do their homework. What will be important is how the F sport drives. If its driving capabilities are similar to an Audi or BMW then Lexus has accomplished its goal.

 

the new grill reminds me of an EDSEL

 

I think you're right!!!

 

That ...ish funny as hell

 

That looks like the same pic I used when describing the 4GS.

 

LOL....

 

you must have missed the many previous threads where a lot of us complained on the new 740 with turbo i6 315hp? or how slow the s400 hybrid is despite being v6 hybrid?

or could it be you are missing the fact that the a8 actually has a supercharged v6 with 333hp now? the 372 v8 you talked about (i assume that's what you meant) is not even offered anymore from what i see on audiusa.com. let's forget about the w12, if you want v8, you need to go s8, which has a whopping 520hp.

if you want to compare, let's compare what's available in the market now apple to apple.

who is not doing his homework?