Notices
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017) Discussion topics related to the current flagship models LS460, LS460L and LS600H

Brake Failure AND Traction Light

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 19, 2010 | 06:16 PM
  #1  
460LCHI's Avatar
460LCHI
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 2
From: AZ
Default Brake Failure AND Traction Light

Has anyone had their brake pedal go to the floor and the traction light come on at the same time? When I say go to the floor I mean go to the floor with no ABS feel, no noise, no dash indicators??
I was pulling into my garage, foot off the gas, with my foot on the brake when the pedal went to the floor and the traction light came on, there was a slight surge of power, the pedal was still to the floor, and the car ran into the cabinets which stopped the vehicle causing damage to the car, and destroying the cabinets. I had the car towed.
The mats were clipped in, the pads are fine, all scheduled service has been performed, and currently I am at about 49K miles. The garage floor is level, the floor was dry.
Please, if anyone has had anything remotely close to this occur I would greatly appreciate your feed back.
Attached Thumbnails Brake Failure AND Traction Light-photo-3.jpg  

Last edited by 460LCHI; Dec 19, 2010 at 06:17 PM. Reason: Typo
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2010 | 06:33 PM
  #2  
rominl's Avatar
rominl
exclusive matchup
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 81,775
Likes: 350
From: Lovely OC
Default

it sounds like either there is air in the lines, or the brake pump failed?
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2010 | 06:39 PM
  #3  
460LCHI's Avatar
460LCHI
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 2
From: AZ
Default

No clue. I just finished up at 13K road trip over the past 4 months without an issue. I hate it occurred, but it is best that it was in my own garage and not somewhere else with people around. Thanks man.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2010 | 06:40 PM
  #4  
jmcraney's Avatar
jmcraney
Moderator
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,220
Likes: 310
From: TX
Default

Please report your experience to the NHTSA. The reporting process is very simple at: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm

Your report might save someone from injury or death.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2010 | 06:43 PM
  #5  
460LCHI's Avatar
460LCHI
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 2
From: AZ
Default

I will keep that in mind. I say it that way because I want to hear what the dealer has to say. Roadside said they have to report it as "unintended" acceleration which will be reported to Lexus. It felt like an old car with bad brake linings if you have ever had that enjoyable experience.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2010 | 10:03 PM
  #6  
I8ABMR's Avatar
I8ABMR
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 22,608
Likes: 105
From: Waiting for next track day
Default

wow... I am speechless. Surprising to say the least. Have you had any brake service recently??
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 12:33 AM
  #7  
msgs350's Avatar
msgs350
Pole Position
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,580
Likes: 246
From: WA
Default

Scary to say the least! Luckily in was just the cabinets not to mention your own property. Glad to hear nobody got hurt. This had never happened to me, and please let us know what happens.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 05:01 AM
  #8  
CJITTY's Avatar
CJITTY
Lead Lap
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,785
Likes: 154
From: The South
Default

Wow..crazy. A while back, i had a caliper fail due to rust in the bleeder valve..car would lock up at low speeds when applying brakes..Lexus towed it back to dealership, fixed it under warranty thank God. Just glad i was driving on a slow road and close to the house. But your situation is really scary..luckily you werent slowing down to a fast moving intersection!
Reply
ClubLexus Stories

Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe

story-0

TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

 Brett Foote
story-4

GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 Reasons to Buy a Lexus TX 550h+ (& 3 Reasons to AVOID!)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Top 10 Lexus & Toyota Models of the 1990s RANKED!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Great Toyotas That Could Have Been Lexus Models

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:26 PM
  #9  
460LCHI's Avatar
460LCHI
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 2
From: AZ
Default

There is a poster here that had the same brake situation who summed it up perfectly saying that it felt like a bad brake booster. I told the dealer it felt like bad brake linings, but as the pedal traveled to the floor the trac light came on and the car got a slight power surge. It was like being on ice trying to stop. Creepy.
All 4 rotors were resurfaced in October due to various TSB's for broken rear spring, rear mounts, front control arms and mounts. Was told that the brake pads were strong and didn't need replacing.
Due to the body damage, I was directed to corporate who will contact legal and be in touch with me.
Better my own property damaged than someone else or an accident, the body damage is a problem I could live without, but what really concerns me is that I couldn't even get the brakes to lock up. Never whether a MB, BMW, Rover, or any other make I have driven have I experienced something like this and I consistently log 50-60K miles per year.
Will keep you posted. Anyone else experience this please let us know.

Last edited by 460LCHI; Dec 20, 2010 at 04:26 PM. Reason: spelling
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 07:39 PM
  #10  
cmasten's Avatar
cmasten
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 740
Likes: 12
From: ca
Default

Originally Posted by 460LCHI
There is a poster here that had the same brake situation who summed it up perfectly saying that it felt like a bad brake booster. I told the dealer it felt like bad brake linings, but as the pedal traveled to the floor the trac light came on and the car got a slight power surge. It was like being on ice trying to stop. Creepy.
All 4 rotors were resurfaced in October due to various TSB's for broken rear spring, rear mounts, front control arms and mounts. Was told that the brake pads were strong and didn't need replacing.
Due to the body damage, I was directed to corporate who will contact legal and be in touch with me.
Better my own property damaged than someone else or an accident, the body damage is a problem I could live without, but what really concerns me is that I couldn't even get the brakes to lock up. Never whether a MB, BMW, Rover, or any other make I have driven have I experienced something like this and I consistently log 50-60K miles per year.
Will keep you posted. Anyone else experience this please let us know.
50 to 60 thousand miles in a year? wow.. I could drive mine for almost a decade run up about the same. Hopefully Lexus corp jumps all over this and takes care of you
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 03:21 PM
  #11  
460LCHI's Avatar
460LCHI
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 2
From: AZ
Default

I envy you if it takes you a decade to put that many miles on. I spread the mileage out between the cars.


Originally Posted by cmasten
50 to 60 thousand miles in a year? wow.. I could drive mine for almost a decade run up about the same. Hopefully Lexus corp jumps all over this and takes care of you
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 04:46 PM
  #12  
cmasten's Avatar
cmasten
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 740
Likes: 12
From: ca
Default

I am fortunate to just commute 8 miles in, and 8 miles out and just a little running around on weekends.

I need to take a road trip and get it out on the road to appreciate it !
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 05:41 PM
  #13  
460LCHI's Avatar
460LCHI
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 2
From: AZ
Default

I think the car is more enjoyable on the road than in the city and gets incredible gas mileage. Best of luck.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 08:29 PM
  #14  
CJITTY's Avatar
CJITTY
Lead Lap
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,785
Likes: 154
From: The South
Default

Originally Posted by 460LCHI
I think the car is more enjoyable on the road than in the city and gets incredible gas mileage. Best of luck.
amen! last road trip was about 900 miles round trip and dash was telling me 31.1 MPG going about 80mph most of the way!...amazing for a V8, nearly 400hp monster like the Lex Luthor
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2010 | 11:45 PM
  #15  
460LCHI's Avatar
460LCHI
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 37
Likes: 2
From: AZ
Default

I am rolling laughing at your reply. My friends and I call my car "Luther" short for Lex Luther, so reading that in your post cracked me up. I just drove from Palm Springs to Chicago and managed 29.5 mpg at speeds over 80 mph. You win. Amazing mileage which is not far off from the 4 cyl Accord or CDI E Class I owned. If I push the limits, I can get almost 600mi out of a tank.



Originally Posted by CJITTY
amen! last road trip was about 900 miles round trip and dash was telling me 31.1 MPG going about 80mph most of the way!...amazing for a V8, nearly 400hp monster like the Lex Luthor
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:46 PM.

story-0
TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

Slideshow: diving into 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium's pricing, performance, fuel economy, features, and amenities!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-23 13:09:18


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

Slideshow: the 10 Lexus and Toyota vehicles you need to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-23 10:34:24


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

Slideshow: Top 10 Lexus/Toyota models with the lowest 5-year depreciation rate.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 12:19:06


VIEW MORE
story-3
Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

The LC hasn't even disappeared from the Lexus lineup yet, and we're already seeing signs of an explosive market.

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-06 09:25:02


VIEW MORE
story-4
GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

Slideshow: comparing the pricings, specs, power, fuel economy, fun-factor, and features of the GX 550 Luxury+ and TX 550h+ Luxury.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-19 13:44:11


VIEW MORE
story-5
9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

Slideshow: 9 best Lexus models you can buy for half price and 1 you should avoid

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-19 12:01:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

Here's everything you need to know about the latest NX.

By Brett Foote | 2026-03-19 11:56:59


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Reasons to Buy a Lexus TX 550h+ (& 3 Reasons to AVOID!)

Slideshow: reviewing the 2026 Lexus TX 550h+ Luxury plug-in hybrid crossover SUV!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-05 19:04:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Lexus & Toyota Models of the 1990s RANKED!

Slideshow: Top 10 Lexus and Toyota model of the 1990s ranked.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-04 12:35:11


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Great Toyotas That Could Have Been Lexus Models

Slideshow: 10 Toyotas that could have been Lexus models.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 11:44:33


VIEW MORE