laminated glass TSB?
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laminated glass TSB?
My LS is early 08 (made in 07). Is there a TSB for laminated glass that I can bring to the dealer? It is a little noisy..hopefully the glass will help somewhat. Better than regular glass?
Thanks guys.
Thanks guys.
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There might be some useful information for you here: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/4137877-post443.html
For most of the cars the noise is caused by a trim defect at the corners of the windows in the front doors. While the glass has been replaced in a lot of cars, there have been few reports of any improvement from that. I don't think it would be the wrong thing to do, just don't expect too much from that.
For most of the cars the noise is caused by a trim defect at the corners of the windows in the front doors. While the glass has been replaced in a lot of cars, there have been few reports of any improvement from that. I don't think it would be the wrong thing to do, just don't expect too much from that.
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So does the new glass help or not? I keep getting mixed messages. Some say it helps some say it doesnt. I do notice what the people are describing. I just want the techs tearing my doors apart to do nothing than put money in the dealerships pockets and rattles in my doors
well, i am pretty sure it helps (after all, it's dual layers vs single), but the question is how much it helps, which imho won't be much, if the problem mainly is on the little triangle part
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will the dealers do anything to fix the triangle piece or are we on our own??? I would be wiling to show my service rep the thread if needed. I just dont know if they will be responsive. What exactly do they do to the triangular piece? Is it just a matter of removing it and then reinstalling it with new adhesive/silicone??? Thanks
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I have said this before and I don't know how to say it better in another way.
For the vast majority of the cars, the DIY triangle trim repair - AKA "JMcRaney Wind Noise Fix" - fixes the wind noise problems. Nothing else is required. Lexus Corp will not allow dealers to fix the cars in this manner. If you allow the dealers to work the wind noise problem they will likely apply the "Cross Wind Turbulence" fix which unequivocally offers no improvement and detracts from the appearance of the car. They may also repair the trim with a contact adhesive which could provide only a marginal improvement and make it very difficult for you to do the DIY fix later. Or they may replace the trim pieces with new trim that will only offer marginal and temporary improvement. The DIY fix is a low risk, high quality, inexpensive, reliable and convenient solution that you should try before you try anything else. If you think this sort of repair is beyond your capabilities then consider getting it done by a collision repair business. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me.
You can find the DIY fix here: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls46...noise-fix.html
For the vast majority of the cars, the DIY triangle trim repair - AKA "JMcRaney Wind Noise Fix" - fixes the wind noise problems. Nothing else is required. Lexus Corp will not allow dealers to fix the cars in this manner. If you allow the dealers to work the wind noise problem they will likely apply the "Cross Wind Turbulence" fix which unequivocally offers no improvement and detracts from the appearance of the car. They may also repair the trim with a contact adhesive which could provide only a marginal improvement and make it very difficult for you to do the DIY fix later. Or they may replace the trim pieces with new trim that will only offer marginal and temporary improvement. The DIY fix is a low risk, high quality, inexpensive, reliable and convenient solution that you should try before you try anything else. If you think this sort of repair is beyond your capabilities then consider getting it done by a collision repair business. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me.
You can find the DIY fix here: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls46...noise-fix.html
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I thought about doing the double pane window tsb, but the idea of the dealership ripping open the door panels and then putting them back just makes me nervous. I will probably do the jmcraney fix in the future.
taking off the door panel and stuff to change the class is probably not as big of a deal. taking apart the whole dash to insulate the clips for squeaking problem, now that's scary
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