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GS460 or LS460 cant make my mind up....any suggetions

luxury1

I have one; LS460!

kalvano

Depends on what you want.

Performance and handling, or the world's best luxury sedan?

TrendyTodd

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^^ +1

Thats the same dilemma I had when I got my GSh. For a little more, I could have gotten the LS, but I chose the GSh for the sporty ride and thought the LS was a little too big for me right now. I also am not ready for the boat-like ride of the LS and loved the handling of the GSh better.

Johnny

Boat-like? Let's check the difference here:

LS460 vs GS450h

Length (in.): 198/190

Width: 73.8/71.7

Height: 58.1/56.1

Curb Weight (lbs.): 4,320/4,134

HP: 380/339

Torque (lb.ft.): 367/267

0-60 (sec.): 5.4/5.5 C&D

It's time to debunk the traditionally held view that the new LS is has boat-like performance characteristics. With larger tires on the LS, active suspension, Sport mode, and a similar spirited 0-60 performance, I can easily outrun, out-corner and out-maneuver any GS that comes along.

There have been higher 0-60 numbers reported, however I think some of those drivers were not letting the 460's nanny loose, if you know what I mean. If you drive the LS around for a while, you'll notice a big difference when going from Comfort mode to Sport mode. The ride hardens up considerably, and so does the cornering response.

TrendyTodd

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Specs don't matter, it's the overall ride quality I was referring to. The LS is much smoother than the GS and very comfortable. And yes, I have driven one, my brother owns one

I'm in no way saying that the boat-like ride of the LS is bad. Everyone has their tastes and right now, at my age, the GSh was a better choice. My next car will definitely be a 600h though.

kalvano

No way the LS runs circles around the GS, handling-wise.

However, I will agree the LS is far from boat-like.

Johnny

I've checked Brit & US mags, and the numbers are almost identical.

Here are they are:

GS450h Skid Pad (g-force): 0.81g
GS450h Slalom: 63.5mph

LS460 Skid Pad (g-force): 0.82g
LS460 Slalom: 62.6mph

These stats are so close, it comes down to a driver's skill.

Yes, I could run easily circles around a GS450h. Without a doubt!

Years ago, I easily beat cocky 911s in my stock 1984 RX-7 GSL-SE on the track...

Then again that wasn't anything new. The LS's numbers are revealing if not surprising, even to me.

Mount some sticky rubbers on it, and those numbers would improve quite a bit as well.

They are both great cars, but comparing their performance rings hollow to me. More like a dead heat, I'd say!

terrain

The only problem I have with the GS is the way it looks :-) If you can not swing an LS then the GS along with lots of other cars are in play.

lucasb7

I realize that they look to be similar in performance numbers, but the way they feel is totally different. While the LS may hold the road as well if not better than the GS, in my experience it does not feel as sporting doing it. I have driven both the GSh and the LSh and can tell you that they GS is more fun to drive fast and definitely is faster.

Both are awesome cars but you need to look at what you want in a car, for me, I compared the IS350 to the GSh and then looked at the LS just in case. If you want a large luxury sedan, the LS is your car. But if you want a mid-size comfortable yet quite sporting car that can whip around a clover-leaf like a car half its size than the GSh is your car.

PS: the GS450h power-train is amazing! Definitely a one-up on the 460 if your looking for mind blowing power.

AlexusAnja

You really can not compare the two in terms of handling "dynamics." Some times you can't just look at raw numbers and say "hey, they're so close that they are the same." Just look at BMW numbers. Do they really "blow away" anyone? No, but I think most people would say a BMW handles differently than a Lexus.

Doing a "test drive" around the dealership is different than being able to just air it and run it through the courses. My "air out" experience with both was at the Taste of Lexus event last year. Both on the same course and since it's closed course and not my car, I let both of them have it. The GS was so much better around corners, while the LS handled them, but with more "motion" lets say. Just different dynamics, if not overall different numbers.

Tom 55

I love my 2007 LS 460 L. My only complaint is that it shakes a little from55 to 75. Has anyone else had this problem? Understand it might be a problem with the drive shaft?

rominl

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numbres is one thing, but driving feel and dynamic is another. i had the ls460l and now the gs350, i can tell you, in terms of fun, the gs350 (and thus 460) is far more fun than the ls, it's no comparison. the ls has no driving feedback and it rolls a lot. not that it doesn't handle well, i know how capable it is when i raced in my ls460l, but that doesn't translate to good driving feel

it's just like comparing the is-f and the m3. yeah on spec, those cars are very similar. i test drove both of them side by side. the is-f is very nice, but the driving dynamics? the m3 hands down