Normal Oil Consumption between changes
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Normal Oil Consumption between changes
Hey I am new with my 07 Base model bought it with 155k miles (250k km) Engine runs smooth no known issues so far.
About 2 months ago I changed the oil and filter myself using the 0W20 Kirkland due to the weather getting cooler (Canada) and drove mostly 90% highway, and if I remember correctly the level I left at oil change was close to MAX with the engine warmed and waiting at least 10-20 min to check. I kinda forgot about it and drove around 2000 miles or 3200km then the other day just doing a normal oil check with the engine cold, about -12 degrees Celsius or 10-F in my garage, no signs of oil in the dipstick, my jaw dropped I ended up adding another aprox 1,3 ish liter/quart to bring it back close to MAX and that I checked with the engine warm and again about 10 min after engine stopped.
I remember that on my other vehicles with smaller engines I'd loose about 1 liter or less between a 3800 mile (6000km) oil change interval, this oil consumption kinda scared me a bit.
Should I be worried?
About 2 months ago I changed the oil and filter myself using the 0W20 Kirkland due to the weather getting cooler (Canada) and drove mostly 90% highway, and if I remember correctly the level I left at oil change was close to MAX with the engine warmed and waiting at least 10-20 min to check. I kinda forgot about it and drove around 2000 miles or 3200km then the other day just doing a normal oil check with the engine cold, about -12 degrees Celsius or 10-F in my garage, no signs of oil in the dipstick, my jaw dropped I ended up adding another aprox 1,3 ish liter/quart to bring it back close to MAX and that I checked with the engine warm and again about 10 min after engine stopped.
I remember that on my other vehicles with smaller engines I'd loose about 1 liter or less between a 3800 mile (6000km) oil change interval, this oil consumption kinda scared me a bit.
Should I be worried?
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These engines can use a lot of oil as they get older, especially with a thin oil like a 0W20. When they are new they didn't use any oil. So unfortunately that is not unusual for that specific engine. I would check the oil once a week. I would consider bumping up to a 0W30 or a 5W30.
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Most likely your car previously was on longer oil change intervals with cheaper oil like dealer supplied or something similar to what you're using now, when you're using the amount you stated I don't think there's much you can do to improve it especially with the amount of fuel dilution this engine has if the car is mainly used for short trips or idles a lot.
You could try a better brand of oil and shorter oci's but that's not a cure, just a way to hide the issue.
You could try a better brand of oil and shorter oci's but that's not a cure, just a way to hide the issue.
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These engines can use a lot of oil as they get older, especially with a thin oil like a 0W20. When they are new they didn't use any oil. So unfortunately that is not unusual for that specific engine. I would check the oil once a week. I would consider bumping up to a 0W30 or a 5W30.
Most likely your car previously was on longer oil change intervals with cheaper oil like dealer supplied or something similar to what you're using now, when you're using the amount you stated I don't think there's much you can do to improve it especially with the amount of fuel dilution this engine has if the car is mainly used for short trips or idles a lot.
You could try a better brand of oil and shorter oci's but that's not a cure, just a way to hide the issue.
You could try a better brand of oil and shorter oci's but that's not a cure, just a way to hide the issue.
I did a bit of research before going for the Costco Kirkland oil and from what I could see it's a rebranded Mobil 1, so It's still a good reasonable high quality oil. unless this engine demands a specific brand or additives.
What would you say in terms of quarts a normal or average oil consumption for these engines? when should I be worried about worn out piston rings and seals?
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If you can't see any oil on the dipstick after 2000 miles or 3200km without any visible leaks (that's around 3 litres) imo you already have a ring problem.
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Well first of all I would start over and try to be more exact on how you're calculating oil consumption, start with the level being as close to the full mark as you can get it after sitting overnight then drive for 2- 3k kms or miles and then after sitting overnight again check and fill to the mark as before and do the math.
If you can't see any oil on the dipstick after 2000 miles or 3200km without any visible leaks (that's around 3 litres) imo you already have a ring problem.
If you can't see any oil on the dipstick after 2000 miles or 3200km without any visible leaks (that's around 3 litres) imo you already have a ring problem.
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My 07 LS 460 has 162,000 miles and it burns oil quite frequently now. I have to add a quart of oil almost every 500 miles or so.
I switched back to a 0W20 oil to see if the oil burning got worse, and the burning increased much faster than the 5W30 I had in it before. So I will go back to a 5W30 oil with this next oil change. I do a lot of highway with a mix of heavy traffic driving as well, but I also live in an area where it’s very hilly, so all that uphill travel puts additional stress on the engine, thus increasing the rpm’s which makes the oil burning worse.
Plus with all the hills, my front brake rotors are already warped in less than 2 years of changing them. I can’t wait to move to a city with flatter roadways and no mountains.
BTW has anyone here used 5W40 oil in your 460? And if so, did it cause any issues?
I switched back to a 0W20 oil to see if the oil burning got worse, and the burning increased much faster than the 5W30 I had in it before. So I will go back to a 5W30 oil with this next oil change. I do a lot of highway with a mix of heavy traffic driving as well, but I also live in an area where it’s very hilly, so all that uphill travel puts additional stress on the engine, thus increasing the rpm’s which makes the oil burning worse.
Plus with all the hills, my front brake rotors are already warped in less than 2 years of changing them. I can’t wait to move to a city with flatter roadways and no mountains.
BTW has anyone here used 5W40 oil in your 460? And if so, did it cause any issues?
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You may be a candidate for a couple of oil changes with this elixer....
I have never used it but if you read the comments of many that have commented after the video, it seems to have made a difference in oil consumption for many of the users.
In general , from my reading of other sites, doing a full engine flush is taking a chance that too much is dislodged too quickly and can lead to serious issues.
Check it out,
"Valvoline Restore and Protect"
I have never used it but if you read the comments of many that have commented after the video, it seems to have made a difference in oil consumption for many of the users.
In general , from my reading of other sites, doing a full engine flush is taking a chance that too much is dislodged too quickly and can lead to serious issues.
Check it out,
"Valvoline Restore and Protect"
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You may be a candidate for a couple of oil changes with this elixer....
I have never used it but if you read the comments of many that have commented after the video, it seems to have made a difference in oil consumption for many of the users.
In general , from my reading of other sites, doing a full engine flush is taking a chance that too much is dislodged too quickly and can lead to serious issues.
Check it out,
"Valvoline Restore and Protect"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyZDghgdCI&t=5s
I have never used it but if you read the comments of many that have commented after the video, it seems to have made a difference in oil consumption for many of the users.
In general , from my reading of other sites, doing a full engine flush is taking a chance that too much is dislodged too quickly and can lead to serious issues.
Check it out,
"Valvoline Restore and Protect"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyZDghgdCI&t=5s
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Originally Posted by Rapha;11840626,
I assumed after a few minutes so the oil comes down fully to the pan.