Best Air Suspension Brands?
04-07-19, 12:39 AM
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Best Air Suspension Brands?
I was wondering what the general opinions are for the best aftermarket air suspension setups are for the LS 430.
I’m just getting into these cars and I saw a sick silver 430 from Honolulu using Air Runner, but what brands for the struts should I be researching? What about for the air management controller?
I’d prefer to get Japanese made stuff to keep the car JDM as possible, but I also want overall quality.
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I’m just getting into these cars and I saw a sick silver 430 from Honolulu using Air Runner, but what brands for the struts should I be researching? What about for the air management controller?
I’d prefer to get Japanese made stuff to keep the car JDM as possible, but I also want overall quality.
Tons of great cars and information here!
04-07-19, 12:56 AM
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AirRunner is a good setup. I used to run them on my car but recently changed to Air Lift. Switched to Air Lift due the added adjust ability to help with my setup. As for air management I am currently running Accuair e-Level and I am thinking of switching to the Air Lift 3H/3P system. It does height and pressure control to eliminate "cross loading".
04-10-19, 08:14 AM
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Air Runner is made in Japan its the most premium air suspension you can install setup cost between $5-8k completed. Next up is Air Lift Performance more budget minded setup cost between $3500-5k and ride excellent . Either Air Lift for management or Accuair both very good
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04-10-19, 01:14 PM
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Air Runner is made in Japan its the most premium air suspension you can install setup cost between $5-8k completed. Next up is Air Lift Performance more budget minded setup cost between $3500-5k and ride excellent . Either Air Lift for management or Accuair both very good
Air Lift seems pretty premium to me. Also Air Runner lists the Air Lift 3P management as an 'upgrade' option.
04-10-19, 01:49 PM
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Air runner is a more oem style strut with a sleeve type bag for the LS430 and it is valved more towards the same valving as oem so the ride quality is very minimally affected. The basic struts cost around $4900 and the OTG about $5900 just struts alone. As far as Air lift they use a generic strut and a bellow type bag. The ride is much different although still a nice ride its not like OEM. The cost for these struts is about $2k. The air runner OTG also has an adjustable strut body to allow you to set them lower while maintaining more air pressure in the bag to make the best ride possible while driving extremely low. As for the Air lift upgrade as an option that is in regards to the air management because the air runner come with basic manual valve paddle setup to upgrade to air lift 3p its electronic then and remote controllable.
04-10-19, 03:13 PM
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You have to understand the difference between the two my friend
Air runner is a more oem style strut with a sleeve type bag for the LS430 and it is valved more towards the same valving as oem so the ride quality is very minimally affected. The basic struts cost around $4900 and the OTG about $5900 just struts alone. As far as Air lift they use a generic strut and a bellow type bag. The ride is much different although still a nice ride its not like OEM. The cost for these struts is about $2k. The air runner OTG also has an adjustable strut body to allow you to set them lower while maintaining more air pressure in the bag to make the best ride possible while driving extremely low. As for the Air lift upgrade as an option that is in regards to the air management because the air runner come with basic manual valve paddle setup to upgrade to air lift 3p its electronic then and remote controllable.
Air runner is a more oem style strut with a sleeve type bag for the LS430 and it is valved more towards the same valving as oem so the ride quality is very minimally affected. The basic struts cost around $4900 and the OTG about $5900 just struts alone. As far as Air lift they use a generic strut and a bellow type bag. The ride is much different although still a nice ride its not like OEM. The cost for these struts is about $2k. The air runner OTG also has an adjustable strut body to allow you to set them lower while maintaining more air pressure in the bag to make the best ride possible while driving extremely low. As for the Air lift upgrade as an option that is in regards to the air management because the air runner come with basic manual valve paddle setup to upgrade to air lift 3p its electronic then and remote controllable.
The Airlift struts offer the same threaded, adjustable shock mount to achieve the same results if you choose to do so. The Airlift offers a double bellow front, and even the OTG from air runner has a similar double bellow setup, not sure how one can be called generic and the other not? Only difference I could think of would be in the shock body, with valving, piston size / bore, etc.
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04-10-19, 07:49 PM
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https://www.airliftperformance.com/v...430-2001-2006/
The Airlift struts offer the same threaded, adjustable shock mount to achieve the same results if you choose to do so. The Airlift offers a double bellow front, and even the OTG from air runner has a similar double bellow setup, not sure how one can be called generic and the other not? Only difference I could think of would be in the shock body, with valving, piston size / bore, etc.
The Airlift struts offer the same threaded, adjustable shock mount to achieve the same results if you choose to do so. The Airlift offers a double bellow front, and even the OTG from air runner has a similar double bellow setup, not sure how one can be called generic and the other not? Only difference I could think of would be in the shock body, with valving, piston size / bore, etc.
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04-11-19, 12:28 AM
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I'm fairly certain double bellow is preferred, with the sleeve type being utilized for applications with reduced clearances. Air Runner uses double below on their new model LS suspension kits.
As for the shocks, Air Lift uses a very high quality mono-tube shock. Like most suspension companies (like T-Demand), a general shock body is fitted with an application specific bottom mount and top hat. The shock body length is also adjustable, and the damper is 30-way adjustable.
As for price, parts from Japan are naturally much more expensive than a USA made product, so comparing price as a sign of quality is not apples-to-apples.
And believe me, I am always the 1st one to promote the superior quality of Japan made products, but the quality of Air Lift is also very good. I'm not saying Air Runner isn't a superior system, since I have not handled it personally, but I don't see clear evidence.
As for the shocks, Air Lift uses a very high quality mono-tube shock. Like most suspension companies (like T-Demand), a general shock body is fitted with an application specific bottom mount and top hat. The shock body length is also adjustable, and the damper is 30-way adjustable.
As for price, parts from Japan are naturally much more expensive than a USA made product, so comparing price as a sign of quality is not apples-to-apples.
And believe me, I am always the 1st one to promote the superior quality of Japan made products, but the quality of Air Lift is also very good. I'm not saying Air Runner isn't a superior system, since I have not handled it personally, but I don't see clear evidence.
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04-28-20, 08:51 PM
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I'm fairly certain double bellow is preferred, with the sleeve type being utilized for applications with reduced clearances. Air Runner uses double below on their new model LS suspension kits.
As for the shocks, Air Lift uses a very high quality mono-tube shock. Like most suspension companies (like T-Demand), a general shock body is fitted with an application specific bottom mount and top hat. The shock body length is also adjustable, and the damper is 30-way adjustable.
As for price, parts from Japan are naturally much more expensive than a USA made product, so comparing price as a sign of quality is not apples-to-apples.
And believe me, I am always the 1st one to promote the superior quality of Japan made products, but the quality of Air Lift is also very good. I'm not saying Air Runner isn't a superior system, since I have not handled it personally, but I don't see clear evidence.
As for the shocks, Air Lift uses a very high quality mono-tube shock. Like most suspension companies (like T-Demand), a general shock body is fitted with an application specific bottom mount and top hat. The shock body length is also adjustable, and the damper is 30-way adjustable.
As for price, parts from Japan are naturally much more expensive than a USA made product, so comparing price as a sign of quality is not apples-to-apples.
And believe me, I am always the 1st one to promote the superior quality of Japan made products, but the quality of Air Lift is also very good. I'm not saying Air Runner isn't a superior system, since I have not handled it personally, but I don't see clear evidence.
04-28-20, 09:40 PM
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Air Lift also has adjustable body length adjustment and dampening adjustment. Air Runner looks like a great product, but I don't see how it could be better 'tuned' when everything is adjustable?
04-29-20, 01:06 PM
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Arnott hasn't been mentioned yet, they make air struts for the LS430. I have no experience with them, but the company occasionally posts on these forums. I recall using the Arnott struts means you have to give up the adaptive suspension dampening or otherwise not be able to use the electronic spring rate actuators on each strut.
04-29-20, 01:22 PM
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Arnott hasn't been mentioned yet, they make air struts for the LS430. I have no experience with them, but the company occasionally posts on these forums. I recall using the Arnott struts means you have to give up the adaptive suspension dampening or otherwise not be able to use the electronic spring rate actuators on each strut.
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