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Old Oct 9, 2017 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Romanova
A one owner car with good service records that presents well commands a bit of a premium from those of us who really appreciate these cars. If it's a complete car with the things I described, then they are probably close on a reasonable price. If there is no history of the TB, I would use that in negotiating... Same for the tires.

Not in ideal color for some, but for a Sport model with the mileage and ownership... Hard to ignore.

For the Sport, the bushings on the control arms were firmer, the struts, springs, and sway bar were all different. Everything should be bolt up on a non Sport car... Some vendors on eBay are selling the used Sport control arms but they are usually from wrecked cars. I'm not sure if they would be worth it new, certainly not for the price. We don't have any aftermarket options for poly bushings either... But for our cars we shouldn't really expect too much.

I'd love to find some dealership literature about the Sport package... How they describe it, especially the struts and springs. I guess the Sport springs are a touch firmer but I doubt they lower the car...
No TB (and technically should be done because of age) so that's 1k. Needs new tires so 900. I offered 11.5. They were at 14.5 but it's been months. They offered 13 even. It's a Base, mine's ML. etc. Not worth it

Sport is "luxury firm". It's been discussed many times. More "road feel" meaning you feel the bumps alto well softened. Def less body roll on corners. It just feels more confident. No difference in height. It is super stable at higher speeds. I'm going to do the Ultra Racing sway bar. New highway/high perf Michelins on the 18's. Have softer Michelins on 17's if I want to go back to that. It's a big luxury car but driving the Sport, for me, adds to the experience. Maybe sharper that up just a little bit. It did take time to get used to the different ride but Sport is still quiet, comfortable and smooth on the highway. Really not that much difference between Base and Sport.

I had an 01 Base. Soft but more comfortable than any car I've ever owned. True luxury. If you prefer that kind of ride and/or you drive lots of miles it's a great choice.
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Old Oct 9, 2017 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by krazyju84
Couple weeks ago, I bought a 04 white, one owner, sport, two smart keys, good tires with 120k miles for 9900 out the door at a dealer. few dings and scratches but everything works except for lights for couple buttons. Was hesitant at first because mileage was much higher than i initially wanted but it drives fantastic. considered couple others with 40-60k less mileage but big deciding factor was this already had timing belt and water pump done at 95k miles. I dont think i got a steal but seem fair enough.
Sounds about right to me, especially if the big ticket items like TB/water pump were recently done. 120k is still very workable with these cars.
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No TB (and technically should be done because of age) so that's 1k. Needs new tires so 900. I offered 11.5. They were at 14.5 but it's been months. They offered 13 even. It's a Base, mine's ML. etc. Not worth it

Sport is "luxury firm". It's been discussed many times. More "road feel" meaning you feel the bumps alto well softened. Def less body roll on corners. It just feels more confident. No difference in height. It is super stable at higher speeds. I'm going to do the Ultra Racing sway bar. New highway/high perf Michelins on the 18's. Have softer Michelins on 17's if I want to go back to that. It's a big luxury car but driving the Sport, for me, adds to the experience. Maybe sharper that up just a little bit. It did take time to get used to the different ride but Sport is still quiet, comfortable and smooth on the highway. Really not that much difference between Base and Sport.

I had an 01 Base. Soft but more comfortable than any car I've ever owned. True luxury. If you prefer that kind of ride and/or you drive lots of miles it's a great choice.
It will be expensive to buy the Sport springs, but I'm starting to lean that way. I don't really need to go any lower and if I ever get rims, it won't be any bigger than 18s... decisions decisions...
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