LOL True, but I was trying to take that into consideration and just compare the GS and LS. I drove them ('06 GS430 and '05 LS430) back-to-back and frankly I didn't really get the feeling that the GS was much more "sporting." I think the seating position and the "atmosphere" of the GS will lull one into the impression that the car is more fun or performance oriented, but IMO it really isn't much. That LS did have the factory Sport Suspension, so perhaps that made the difference, but I really thought one would be splitting hairs to find much difference in the fun to drive category. But in the comfort and refinement category, I felt there was a BIG difference in favor of the LS.

 

hmm.. well i haven't driven the new 3gs but my old 2gs definitely had a much tighter suspension feel and steering wheel feel/response. this led me to assume that the 3gs had to be superior to even the 2gs thus ultimately being far superior to the 04-06 ls in this regard. it makes me laugh to think that they made the 3gs less sporty than the 2gs (99gs400 with a couple perf mods), which i definitely can believe but just feel disappointed and even happier that i went with the ls instead of the 3gs.