how much do you pay for oil change ?!!!
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From: NY
My 88000km Lubrication Service yesterday was $48.84 after tax.
I found the only Toyota dealership in my region that is allowed to work on a Lexus, and it is worth the 30min drive there. I am VERY satisfied with the service and price.
My appointment was for 1pm and I arrived at exactly 1pm. They had a big comfy leather couch and free Wi-Fi so I got some work done on my laptop while the service was being performed. I drove out of there at exactly 2pm. I am sure they drained as much of the old oil as they could.
They used the 90915-20004 oil filter that I provided, filled exactly 4.5L of 5W-30 Toyota Genuine Motor Oil as I requested (and specified in the manual), gave me the 0.5L remaining from the 5th bottle (which I didn't expect), and charged me the Toyota ExpressLube price (which I was hoping for).
Toyota Labor: $79.95/hr * 0.30 hours
TGMO: 4.69/L = $23.45
Oil drain plug gasket: $0.80
Silicone grease: $0.85
Lubricated all locks, latchs, hinges
Inspected engine air filter, drive belts, tire wear and pressure, all fluids
No environmental fees
Did not rotate tires, did not wash the car
My prior 2 (and only 2) Lexus dealership oil changes were $113 after tax, and they charged for 6L of oil when the specification is 4.5L. This cost would have been higher if I didn't supply my own filter.
It seems that for $64 more, the additional benefits of Lexus service is that they will wash the car after, overfill the oil (or overcharge you), and charge you for fabric protection, disposal, materials, or other silly charges.
Considering it's winter and the car will be dirty within 2 minutes of driving away, and that they would probably put light scratches in the car by using improper tools/techniques, I was glad they didn't wash the car.
Not knocking this dealership - I just don't trust any dealership's courtesy washes or detailers. They normally do everything as fast as possible, reusing shammys, towels, etc, and the job usually isn't performed by a true professional detailer.
Every Lexus appointment I've had (only 4) resulted in an unsatisfactory courtesy clean.
I found the only Toyota dealership in my region that is allowed to work on a Lexus, and it is worth the 30min drive there. I am VERY satisfied with the service and price.
My appointment was for 1pm and I arrived at exactly 1pm. They had a big comfy leather couch and free Wi-Fi so I got some work done on my laptop while the service was being performed. I drove out of there at exactly 2pm. I am sure they drained as much of the old oil as they could.
They used the 90915-20004 oil filter that I provided, filled exactly 4.5L of 5W-30 Toyota Genuine Motor Oil as I requested (and specified in the manual), gave me the 0.5L remaining from the 5th bottle (which I didn't expect), and charged me the Toyota ExpressLube price (which I was hoping for).
Toyota Labor: $79.95/hr * 0.30 hours
TGMO: 4.69/L = $23.45
Oil drain plug gasket: $0.80
Silicone grease: $0.85
Lubricated all locks, latchs, hinges
Inspected engine air filter, drive belts, tire wear and pressure, all fluids
No environmental fees
Did not rotate tires, did not wash the car
My prior 2 (and only 2) Lexus dealership oil changes were $113 after tax, and they charged for 6L of oil when the specification is 4.5L. This cost would have been higher if I didn't supply my own filter.
It seems that for $64 more, the additional benefits of Lexus service is that they will wash the car after, overfill the oil (or overcharge you), and charge you for fabric protection, disposal, materials, or other silly charges.
Considering it's winter and the car will be dirty within 2 minutes of driving away, and that they would probably put light scratches in the car by using improper tools/techniques, I was glad they didn't wash the car.
Not knocking this dealership - I just don't trust any dealership's courtesy washes or detailers. They normally do everything as fast as possible, reusing shammys, towels, etc, and the job usually isn't performed by a true professional detailer.
Every Lexus appointment I've had (only 4) resulted in an unsatisfactory courtesy clean.
The dealership might be charging for 6L because I believe the ls430 is suppose to take about 5.4 liters even though the manual may say 4.5L.
Might want to check your dipstick to make sure you aren't low.
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From: Alabama
...and rotate and wax the tires...? Some of you guys must be in way better shape than I am, or a lot younger, I'm 55. I am in decent shape but I can tell you just jacking up the LS and dismounting and remounting two tires on the LS to check the brake pads absolutely wears me out for the day. The 17 inch chunky tires and wheels on the LS feel like they weigh 75 lbs a piece. Remounting them on the hub and getting the bolts back on is a bear. Maybe its cause i am old but those LS wheels feel way bigger and heavier than the 14 inch wheels/tires I used to change with np on my 79 Grand Prix back when I was in my mid 20s. Also those old style wheels were so much easier because they were mounted with nuts that screwed onto studs mounted on the hub, unlike the Lexus wheels which are much harder to mount without the help of studs mounted on the wheel hub.
Last edited by Jabberwock; Jan 22, 2011 at 09:10 PM.
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From: AZ
...and rotate and wax the tires...? Some of you guys must be in way better shape than I am, or a lot younger, I'm 55. I am in decent shape but I can tell you just jacking up the LS and dismounting and remounting two tires on the LS to check the brake pads absolutely wears me out for the day. The 17 inch chunky tires and wheels on the LS feel like they weigh 75 lbs a piece. Remounting them on the hub and getting the bolts back on is a bear. Maybe its cause i am old but those LS wheels feel way bigger and heavier than the 14 inch wheels/tires I used to change with np on my 79 Grand Prix back when I was in my mid 20s. Also those old style wheels were so much easier because they were mounted with nuts that screwed onto studs mounted on the hub, unlike the Lexus wheels which are much harder to mount without the help of studs mounted on the wheel hub.
Instructor
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,199
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From: Ontario, Canada
Drain&refill w/new filter capacity specs:
2006: 5.1L (5.4Qt)
2002-2005: 4.5L (4.8Qt)
2001: 5.6L (5.9Qt)
I'm also curious as to why the capacity spec is different for 2001 and 2006. Anyone have any insight? Did they change the design of the oil pan or something?
Rookie
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 56
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From: CA
I'm curious as to why the manual would have an incorrect specification that is not corrected by a service bulletin.
Drain&refill w/new filter capacity specs:
2006: 5.1L (5.4Qt)
2002-2005: 4.5L (4.8Qt)
2001: 5.6L (5.9Qt)
I'm also curious as to why the capacity spec is different for 2001 and 2006. Anyone have any insight? Did they change the design of the oil pan or something?
Drain&refill w/new filter capacity specs:
2006: 5.1L (5.4Qt)
2002-2005: 4.5L (4.8Qt)
2001: 5.6L (5.9Qt)
I'm also curious as to why the capacity spec is different for 2001 and 2006. Anyone have any insight? Did they change the design of the oil pan or something?
Driver School Candidate
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 2
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From: NY
I'm curious as to why the manual would have an incorrect specification that is not corrected by a service bulletin.
Drain&refill w/new filter capacity specs:
2006: 5.1L (5.4Qt)
2002-2005: 4.5L (4.8Qt)
2001: 5.6L (5.9Qt)
I'm also curious as to why the capacity spec is different for 2001 and 2006. Anyone have any insight? Did they change the design of the oil pan or something?
Drain&refill w/new filter capacity specs:
2006: 5.1L (5.4Qt)
2002-2005: 4.5L (4.8Qt)
2001: 5.6L (5.9Qt)
I'm also curious as to why the capacity spec is different for 2001 and 2006. Anyone have any insight? Did they change the design of the oil pan or something?
Instructor
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,199
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From: Ontario, Canada
BNR34 posted that the service manual says 5.4L while the owner's manual states 4.8L in this post.https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls4...-how-to-2.html
2002-2005 owner's manuals and service manuals say 4.5L, which is equal to 4.8Qt. The only 5.4 mentioned in the manuals is 5.4 Imp. qts for a dry fill.
I suppose the question is, do you trust the service manuals or do you trust a dipstick? I can't see why the book would be wrong (and if it is, can someone provide proof?), and I think the dipstick is a more likely source of inaccuracy. Since TGMO comes in 1L bottles, filling exactly 4.5 is easy. If you use quart bottles, I'm sure overfilling by 0.2 quarts won't be too harmful.
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Apr 2004
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From: MA
I do my own oil changes and my 05 takes 5.5 quarts with filter. Since the oil drain plug is on the far end of the oil pan on the passenger side, I drive only the front drivers side up onto a ramp. So I'm getting a pretty thorough dump of all the oil in the pan.
Lead Lap
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: NY/NJ
Dry to the bone
If I got with my dipstick, 5 quarts goes right up to the middle of hash, with a filter change (OEM Toyota filter). I don't bother to open another quart to fill in the remaining 1/2 to bring up to "full" as the engine is not leaking. Once it starts leaking, then I'll fill to full as I then would be topping off every so often.
Pole Position
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 331
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From: NSW - Australia
My car took spot on 5 LITRES of oil including filter change when I last changed it. 5L would equal 5.5 US Quarts.
Cost me $50AUD for a 5L bottle of penrite 10w40 plus ten,and a Ryco oil filter.
I'm an ex-mechanic,so I have all the tools on hand at home,and do 99% of the work on my cars. Only stuff I farm out is paintwork and wheel alignments.
Justin...
Cost me $50AUD for a 5L bottle of penrite 10w40 plus ten,and a Ryco oil filter.
I'm an ex-mechanic,so I have all the tools on hand at home,and do 99% of the work on my cars. Only stuff I farm out is paintwork and wheel alignments.
Justin...