NCLex

Hi,

95 Lexus LS 400. 200,000 miles. AC compressor locked up. Have removed it.

Car won't run without the compressor of course because of belt configuration, so thinking of installing a used one.

I know the possibility of shavings in system, especially mine because I could hear bearings grinding for a month before it locked up.
Just cannot afford to totally rebuild with new compressor, have system flushed, etc.

My question is, I just want the car to run. I don't need the AC. Just want local transportation and try to sell the car.
If I install the used compressor, will it run without charging with freon. Or if I dont charge it up, will it eventually lock up?
Just looking for cheapest way to get car to run with or without cold ac.
Thank you!

dicer

The one you have should work if the ac clutch still free wheels and the bearings for it are okay.
If you install a used one that is what you want on it too. If its not charged it just won't turn on, that is engage the ac clutch, it would always stay in the free wheel condition, which basically turns it into just another idler pulley to support the belt.

NCLex

The compressor is locked up, and you can't turn the pully, the bearings are bad so will need at least a used one. I appreciate your reply. Exactly what I thought.
Thanks!

dicer

With just the ac compressor locked up the inner part would not turn by hand. If you can not also turn the pulley, then either the clutch is stuck engaged, or the bearings for the pulley are also shot.

lextout

you can possibly replace just the ac bearing, no need to remove the ac compressor its self,part is available online.

Schramm

Get a used A/C compressor and install it. It should cost about $75 - 150 depending on condition. Assuming the rest of the A/C system is working, you could have a shop recharge the system properly for about $125. Do not try filling it yourself with refrigerant in a can; it is impossible to know how much refrigerant and oil is added. If you did not recover the old R-134a with a vacuum pump, there will still be oil in the lines. The pump is sensitive to amount of refrigerant and oil. It may be worth doing in heat of NC.

oldskewel

iTrader: (1)

I'm away from home right now, so I can't check if this is a crazy idea, so I'll throw it out there in case you have not considered it yet ...

Can you get a shorter A-belt and bypass the AC compressor completely? To be extra clear, the new A-belt would hit the pulleys of all the remaining components, but will not touch the AC compressor pulley. Will the shorter belt route around things OK?

sndlight

The car will run with a used compressor. The AC will not run if you don't recharge it or recharge it. If you do run the AC with the used compressor all of the metal shavings from your grenaded one will ruin the used one in a matter of minutes to an hour IF you charge it back up with freon.
I had your same problem. I have a black LS in illinois and summer gets to 100 degrees and above. Making my car very crappy to be in.
what I did was buy a $80 reman compressor from eBay, rented a AC flusher from autozone, bought flushing fluid and flushed only the condensor (in front of the radiator) with it removed from vehicle. Replaced filter drier and all orings I could get to. Added some PAG oil to comprssor, drier, and condensor. Pulled vacuum and charged with 2 cans of R134. I have a robinair vacuum pump for this purpose already. If you don't have one take it to a shop who does. Should cost $40-60 or so to evacuate and recharge.
My AC has been working for almost a year for a total cost of a few hours of my time, $80 reman + $15 drier + $10 flush fluid + $10 oring kit + $7 refrigerant + $6 PAG oil = $128 total.
Do not bother with all this work if you are putting a junkyard compressor in. I tried that and the compressor I got was junk lol. Had to replace my new drier again (DRIERS ARE ONE TIME USE ITEMS) and buy more freon. Btw I was 19 years old and had never done any AC work before. Got all this accomplished with the help of CL and info from some Honda forums (more users work on their own cars over there)

sndlight

Sounds like just the pulley bearing has seized.
If you need just a good pulley that freewheels (bearing is good) and don't need the AC to work I can send you an alright clutch assembly for the cost of shipping. Youll need snap ring pliers and a 8mm on an impact wrench to change the pulley off the car if I remember correctly.

GoBp

The same day I purchased my ls, the bearing locked up completely which snapped the belt. Found the correct belt length to reroute around and been riding since last august. with summer near I would like to address the problem. I'm about a hour from Chicago

dicer

What year car and what size belt:?

GoBp

1997 and i'll head over to Autozone and check my warranty file for the belt size I used

LS400FAN

My concern with a used ac compressor is it's only a matter of time before it goes bad, I've decided to go with a new Denso for $280.00, question for you is there any way to tell if metal shavings got into the sys, and how exactly do you flush the sys out?

dicer

Also change o rings in the system, there are some that you can't change easy and if they are leaking you will be back to square one. They are the ones where the whole dash comes out.

python

iTrader: (4)

dont just change the compressor, IF the compressor imploded u will have to change the condensor..filter drier. buy the whole kit to do the job correctly. kit number at napa is
DEN35540N
denso compressor that is included is 471-1220