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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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if you will take a high resolution photo of the instrument cluster and also provide a list of what caps you see on it, I will make sure you didn't miss any caps and give you recommendations on the best replacement cap for each one.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LScowboyLS
if you will take a high resolution photo of the instrument cluster and also provide a list of what caps you see on it, I will make sure you didn't miss any caps and give you recommendations on the best replacement cap for each one.
Awesome, I will absolutely do this! I have not pulled the cluster yet. When I get a chance to pull it I will take some pictures of the capacitors and post them. I'd love to get recommendations. I went on faith and ordered the capacitors that this guy listed

I believe they are surface mount capacitors which means that the fix will be far from easy!

(and somewhat of a hack job since I'd be mounting through hole capacitors in a place where SMD capacitors should be..)
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 06:24 PM
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NO!

SMD capacitors are not bad, and NOT replaceable!

only the caps that look like the ones you pulled from your ECU (the little cans)
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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that whole cluster thread is a complete hack job!! --- ugh!!
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LScowboyLS
NO!

SMD capacitors are not bad, and NOT replaceable!

only the caps that look like the ones you pulled from your ECU (the little cans)
Well I didn't look yet, but according to this site they are SMD capacitors.

*removing old capacitors
when you have the bare circuit board on your bench, and begin to remove the bad C142/C147, DO NOT just pull the capacitors out. Be very careful not to damage the circuit trace surrounding them. the capacitor can is surface-mount on the component side of circuit board, and you can’t de-solder it from the bottom of circuit board. the two legs (+/- leads) are too short (entirely covered by the ‘can’) to be de-soldered underneath the capacitor can. What I did was to use a sharp nose pliers and ‘destroyed’/removed the capacitor can first, then the two leads were exposed to be de-soldered.
Also, you can tell from the pictures 5 and 6 of post #1 here that they look like SMD. This apparently IS a real fix and has been said on this forum and a few others for the instrument panel "blacking out" in cold weather. That is what has been happening to my car ever since it has been getting colder out. I figured I would give it a shot because it is super annoying to have no back-light on your instrument cluster!
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LScowboyLS
that whole cluster thread is a complete hack job!! --- ugh!!
lol agreed to some degree..
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by aomdedude1
This apparently IS a real fix and has been said on this forum and a few others for the instrument panel "blacking out" in cold weather.
Yamae and I will study this fix over the next 24 hours!
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LScowboyLS
Yamae and I will study this fix over the next 24 hours!
Now THATS an honor!!
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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I completed my 1992 sc400 ecu succesfully all with caps purchased through Digikey and the 10uf 50v through mouser. I purchased enough for my 1995 LS400 and my 2001 Tundra. I realize you haven't listed the 2uzfe is the original post but I have a hard 1st to second shift bang. Slippage from 3rd to 4th, hard starting and horrible fuel mileage. Actually, its probably good to add that in addition to the poor fuel mileage, when I replaced the starter in the Tundra, I had to pull the plenum and there was literally puddles of fuel in there. It was crazy to see this!! So I'm going to hope that the list for 1998 - 2000 is applicable to the 2001 Tundra. I'll soon find out!
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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So I'm going to hope that the list for 1998 - 2000 is applicable to the 2001 Tundra. I'll soon find out!
there will be some overlap, but I would be surprised if the exact list of capacitors are the same!

how is the '92 running now?
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 02:51 PM
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regarding your tundra..this is where u need to find answers
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/77...ion-2000-2006/
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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LScowboyLS, I had one location that had severe leakage and some bad green looking junk under the cap and on the board. I noticed the baking soda/vinegar took the conformal coat off the board so i kept it to a concentrated area of use. I will be going to the shop tomorrow evening to reinstall the ECU and test it out. I will post my results. As far as the Tundra 2uzfe ECU, I planned on opening it up and comparing the list for 1998-2000 models to what I find in there and then placing my order. If I provide a list and see capacitor values other than those listed would you be able to post links to the correct ones to buy? Here are some pics of the 1992 SC400 ECU I just completed. Oh, and lastly, the 40w iron I purchased through Radioshack crapped out immediately. It was weird, it smoked out the cord end and it would not heat up enough after that. The store accepted it as a return and I bought the 60w version. It worked flawlessly.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 06:02 PM
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with all of this leakage, you will be amazed at the difference in the car!

make sure to clean all that mess on the board up

you can just use alcohol in a pinch, and a soft toothbrush, but do not get near the very delicate surface mount components (in the photo above, see the tiny cap C102 that is orange and says A4 on it?) - those are very easy to ruin with soldering iron or toothbrush - very delicate, stay clear of them!

If I provide a list and see capacitor values other than those listed would you be able to post links to the correct ones to buy?
yes!
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dhhd
LScowboyLS, I had one location that had severe leakage and some bad green looking junk under the cap and on the board. I noticed the baking soda/vinegar took the conformal coat off the board so i kept it to a concentrated area of use.
I also noticed that the conformal coating came off! I at first used Arctic Silver Arcticlean on a small area of the board. Then followed up with 50% rubbing alcohol to remove the left over flux.

I think it was probably the Arcticlean that started to remove the conformal coating!

Just proves that you need to be super gentle with these boards. When I go to finish the job, I will just upgrade to 91% isopropyl alcohol.



...and WOW, that capacitor was SHOT. None of mine looked that bad!
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1992 LS400 126,000 miles TRAC-equipped with ECU # 89661-50042

Symptom:
totally erratic Just Like Running Out Of Gas whenever it feels like it.
Spontaneously cleared up for *a whole year*, but now is cropping up monthly.
A full tank of gas seems to help. That made me think fuel pump windings getting heat-annoyed at low fuel level?
Bridged two-stage fuel pump relay, no change.
Replaced fuel filter, no change.
All grounds good.

The fact that the symptoms disappear so crisply and discretely, makes me think of things electronic . . .

But.
Removed ECU.It looks so absolutely pristine beautiful, not a speck of dust in the box, no evidence of anything having ever leaked, that I am hesitant to hack into it . . .

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Pored over every solder joint:

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I need to know from a definitive Graduate Of Capacitor Replacement that:
a) you *can* have a perfect circuit board staring back at you, yet bizarre symptoms.
b) perhaps some other circuit board in these cars that might be the agent behind this Just Like Running Out Of Gas symptom.
Colin
(p.s. anybody here notice that the LS400 is going *up* in value in the NADA guides?
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