confused between hid and halogen bulb type? here's the answer
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From: Lovely OC
Originally posted by roller400
Will putting HID bulbs in car that is normally halogen look like HID? Don't HID have auto levelers and ballasts to control the current?
Also, from my brief time surfing CL, I have read several references to 6000K bulbs. I'm assuming they are brighter bulbs (correct if I'm mistaken) I currently have HID on my GS400, can I just buy 6000k bulbs and replace the stock ones, or do I have to change the ballasts as I have read some people doing?
Thanks,
Will putting HID bulbs in car that is normally halogen look like HID? Don't HID have auto levelers and ballasts to control the current?
Also, from my brief time surfing CL, I have read several references to 6000K bulbs. I'm assuming they are brighter bulbs (correct if I'm mistaken) I currently have HID on my GS400, can I just buy 6000k bulbs and replace the stock ones, or do I have to change the ballasts as I have read some people doing?
Thanks,
1) putting really hid kits on halogen housing wont' make it look fake. no one can tell i don't have HID on my car before and it's a hid kit. yes tehre is a ballasts on hid kits, but it's behind the housing.
2) hid doesn't have to come with autoleveling at all, two different concepts. for example, no acura has hid with autoleveling. it's required in europe but not in the US
3) 6000k is NOT brighter than 4300k technically at all. 4300k is still the brightest. 6000k is just whiter/bluer, but it's not brighter. you MIGHT think it's brighter when you look at it but it's just coz' the light scatter more than the 4300k
4) if you have hid now already, just get the 6000k bulbs, it's fine. the stock ballasts are more than enough to handle them
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Originally posted by rominl
couple of things
1) putting really hid kits on halogen housing wont' make it look fake. no one can tell i don't have HID on my car before and it's a hid kit. yes tehre is a ballasts on hid kits, but it's behind the housing.
2) hid doesn't have to come with autoleveling at all, two different concepts. for example, no acura has hid with autoleveling. it's required in europe but not in the US
3) 6000k is NOT brighter than 4300k technically at all. 4300k is still the brightest. 6000k is just whiter/bluer, but it's not brighter. you MIGHT think it's brighter when you look at it but it's just coz' the light scatter more than the 4300k
4) if you have hid now already, just get the 6000k bulbs, it's fine. the stock ballasts are more than enough to handle them
couple of things
1) putting really hid kits on halogen housing wont' make it look fake. no one can tell i don't have HID on my car before and it's a hid kit. yes tehre is a ballasts on hid kits, but it's behind the housing.
2) hid doesn't have to come with autoleveling at all, two different concepts. for example, no acura has hid with autoleveling. it's required in europe but not in the US
3) 6000k is NOT brighter than 4300k technically at all. 4300k is still the brightest. 6000k is just whiter/bluer, but it's not brighter. you MIGHT think it's brighter when you look at it but it's just coz' the light scatter more than the 4300k
4) if you have hid now already, just get the 6000k bulbs, it's fine. the stock ballasts are more than enough to handle them
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Will putting HID bulbs in car that is normally halogen look like HID? Don't HID have auto levelers and ballasts to control the current?
To answer your second question, no you don't need to change your ballast to switch to 6000K. Just make sure you get the same type of HID bulb. If you have OEM HID, then it is usually D2R or D2S. If you have rebased HID bulbs, make sure you get the same type of rebased HID. e.g. 9006, 9007, etc.
Hope this helps.
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From: Lovely OC
Originally posted by roller400
That is helpful information about the 6000k, thanks. I guess what I was asking in 1 though was if I put the HID bulb only (no kit) in a halogen set-up via HID bulb with a halogen base like you described in the start of the thread, will it still look like HID or not light up at all?
That is helpful information about the 6000k, thanks. I guess what I was asking in 1 though was if I put the HID bulb only (no kit) in a halogen set-up via HID bulb with a halogen base like you described in the start of the thread, will it still look like HID or not light up at all?
without ballasts there is no way you can light up the hid at all. the whole technology is different
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Question
Im thinking of changin my low beam (night lamp/the one on the middle).. so I just started reading this lighting forum.. anybody can help me with basic questions?
How much K that GS' stock HID has?
And where can I get LED like phml has for low beam(night lamp/not drl)? And what type is it?
If I put an LED on the low beam like phml has, will my stock HID looks yellow?
-Mike
How much K that GS' stock HID has?
And where can I get LED like phml has for low beam(night lamp/not drl)? And what type is it?
If I put an LED on the low beam like phml has, will my stock HID looks yellow?
-Mike
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From: Lovely OC
Re: Question
Originally posted by Blackened
Im thinking of changin my low beam (night lamp/the one on the middle).. so I just started reading this lighting forum.. anybody can help me with basic questions?
How much K that GS' stock HID has?
And where can I get LED like phml has for low beam(night lamp/not drl)? And what type is it?
If I put an LED on the low beam like phml has, will my stock HID looks yellow?
-Mike
Im thinking of changin my low beam (night lamp/the one on the middle).. so I just started reading this lighting forum.. anybody can help me with basic questions?
How much K that GS' stock HID has?
And where can I get LED like phml has for low beam(night lamp/not drl)? And what type is it?
If I put an LED on the low beam like phml has, will my stock HID looks yellow?
-Mike
and i have a feeling the night time driving light (the one you asking about) might look a bit bluer than the stock hid
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All the levelers do is point the hid down when you are going uphill and point it up when you are going downhill.
It also adjust when you accelerate and brake. Cool as hell to see them light up and auto adjust when your car comes on.
Take note: Cheap factory hid systems like the ones in TLs and Maximas, VWs do not have any type of leveling system. If the factory wants to put HIDs in, they should really do it right.
It also adjust when you accelerate and brake. Cool as hell to see them light up and auto adjust when your car comes on.
Take note: Cheap factory hid systems like the ones in TLs and Maximas, VWs do not have any type of leveling system. If the factory wants to put HIDs in, they should really do it right.
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From: Lovely OC
Originally posted by concepts
All the levelers do is point the hid down when you are going uphill and point it up when you are going downhill.
It also adjust when you accelerate and brake. Cool as hell to see them light up and auto adjust when your car comes on.
Take note: Cheap factory hid systems like the ones in TLs and Maximas, VWs do not have any type of leveling system. If the factory wants to put HIDs in, they should really do it right.
All the levelers do is point the hid down when you are going uphill and point it up when you are going downhill.
It also adjust when you accelerate and brake. Cool as hell to see them light up and auto adjust when your car comes on.
Take note: Cheap factory hid systems like the ones in TLs and Maximas, VWs do not have any type of leveling system. If the factory wants to put HIDs in, they should really do it right.
plus it's not really required in the US anyway, so it's hard to say that they are doing it WRONG
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thanx for the info....
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From: Lovely OC
Re: thanx for the info....
Originally posted by cjnmel
now, my question is. does this apply only to the later GS models or can this be done also with the 1st Gen GS300's?
now, my question is. does this apply only to the later GS models or can this be done also with the 1st Gen GS300's?
btw, check pm, your sig is violating the rule
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i have a question about the HID. I thought that the 2004 GS would come with HID, but i was told that you need to add navi in order to have HID. But anyways, my question is. I have the d2r 6000k bulb. And i'm wondering if there are any online sites where i can just buy the *is it called the ballast* so i can use the bulb?
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From: Lovely OC
Originally posted by RyCe2gO
i have a question about the HID. I thought that the 2004 GS would come with HID, but i was told that you need to add navi in order to have HID. But anyways, my question is. I have the d2r 6000k bulb. And i'm wondering if there are any online sites where i can just buy the *is it called the ballast* so i can use the bulb?
i have a question about the HID. I thought that the 2004 GS would come with HID, but i was told that you need to add navi in order to have HID. But anyways, my question is. I have the d2r 6000k bulb. And i'm wondering if there are any online sites where i can just buy the *is it called the ballast* so i can use the bulb?
at the same time, i believe the gs430 are all equipped with hid standard now, i think if you get gs300 then you need nav or something to have hid
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From: Lovely OC
the bulbs, for a pair i think they are about 230 to 250 bucks shipped.
and RyCe2gO, maybe you can try to email jus4bulbs@yahoo.com and see what's up
and RyCe2gO, maybe you can try to email jus4bulbs@yahoo.com and see what's up