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Old May 18, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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Well, I finally spent some time locating the Lamp Failure Module and trying to disable the 'Bulb Out" light on the dash. The Lamp Failure Module is found behind the left side panel in the trunk, underneath the left trunk lid hinge. You need to peel back the left trunk liner, then find the orangy-colored box that's bolted to the inside of the large trunk brace (see picture). This unit only has ONE OUTPUT, it indicates that either a tail, stop, or 3rd brake light bulb is out by sending a single signal to ECU #2. Once this signal is disconnected, no more bulb out indication. The output to the ECU is on pin 4 of the Lamp Failure Module (see arrow in picture).

So first I tried the electrical tape deal as outlined in the following thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...fully+disabled
but the connector pin kept puncturing the electrical tape when I re-assembled the connector and kept making contact anyway.

Then I figured the dang thing only has one output, so I disconnected it completely. No more bulb out light. Only one minor problem. No more tail lights or brake lights either. I drove for a whole day like this until a guy pulled up next to me and told me about it. I instantly knew what was wrong - the tail/brake light path runs THROUGH the Lamp Failure Module, and it needs to be connected to retain the light functions.

OK, time to get serious with this. I removed the unit from the car and opened it up, it comes apart very easily and is only 4 parts (see picture). I traced the Pin 4 output into the PC board and the last component the signal goes through is a resistor. I clipped the resistor (you can clip either end to disable), pulled one end up i the air, and reassembled. Bingo, no more bulb out light, and this time I still have tail & brake lights. Done.

So if anyone decides to do this, clip the resistor so that you can easily bend it back down and drop a ball of solder on it to reconnect it and restore normal operation, in case you're returning to stock config.

Sorry the pics aren't too clear, my digital camera wouldn't focus that close.

I'll bet that if we could get a more complete schematic of this board, we could figure out how to re-rig it so that the bulb out indication would work for whatever load/bulbs you put in the circuit just by changing the values of a couple of resistors.....

Jerry.
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location in trunk.....(pic shows connector, but module has already been removed)
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disassembled Lamp Failure Module.....
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back side of PC board............
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Weird....i just pulled Pin #4 wire and lamp failure warning light was gone....but brake and taillights still work perfectly.
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Weird....i just pulled Pin #4 wire and lamp failure warning light was gone....but brake and taillights still work perfectly.
Yeah, you can do that too. I didn't want to pull any connector pins because I wasn't sure that I wouldn't mess up the connector in the process. Really wanted to avoid cutting the wire too. I'm sure I can re-solder the resistor if I need to though.
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Dang, I just took off speedometer & tach cluster and put some black electrical tape over the bulb out indicator light.... works great for me
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Originally Posted by AUGuy21
Dang, I just took off speedometer & tach cluster and put some black electrical tape over the bulb out indicator light.... works great for me
That's an easy solution if it works for ya.
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Will this work on the SC also??

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certainly the tape will work. as for the electrical mod, you'd have to check the schematics to see how it's wired, it will likely be similar, but no guarantee it's the same.
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Originally Posted by AUGuy21
Dang, I just took off speedometer & tach cluster and put some black electrical tape over the bulb out indicator light.... works great for me

Why didnt you just pull the light bulb out?
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Originally Posted by GRAND_LS 4
Why didnt you just pull the light bulb out?
Works great for me. Easily reversible as well.
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What I did was I pulled out the little light bulb off the cluster.
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I guess there's a bulb in there and not an LED? Sheesh, what happens if THAT bulb burns out? Heh heh....
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sorry to bring back an old thread, but just wanted to say this mod must be 2nd easiest to replacing the bumper lights! i referenced an old thread and followed PHML's DIY to a 't'! i also pulled out my deck 3rd brake light so there's no bump and covered the big empty hole with some dark carpeting for concealment. wuala! poof!

i must hand it to CL...loads...tons of useful info!
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