Any successful stereo upgrades?
Jacko, I have the factory Nav/ headunit as well, and I have a completely re done system running off of the head unit with no problems at all. I know alot of other CL members do as well. If you wanted to switch things around it can be done. The shops your speaking to probably just have never done it, therefore are afraid to get into something they have no clue on how to do. Talk to some more shops, start with the high end ones that do custom work. Its really not that complex of a job for a qualified stereo shop.
TTurbo,
I went to the really high end shops only. If Im going to do something like that I do it right. They are the ones who wont touch it. They said that they will do it but it will sound terrible (engine noise, cracks etc) and I wont be happy so theyd rather not do it unless I take out the HU. They crappy ghetto installers are happy to do it and dont make any comments about quality.
As far as switching the reg factory speakers and amp with the Nak. are they plug and play or would I have to mess around with stuff?
I went to the really high end shops only. If Im going to do something like that I do it right. They are the ones who wont touch it. They said that they will do it but it will sound terrible (engine noise, cracks etc) and I wont be happy so theyd rather not do it unless I take out the HU. They crappy ghetto installers are happy to do it and dont make any comments about quality.
As far as switching the reg factory speakers and amp with the Nak. are they plug and play or would I have to mess around with stuff?
I can't believe you guys are searching around and "not finding anything." Jacko you shop sucks. Period. They don't want to work on your car so don't make them. Here are some threads, but there is a problem with the first one.
WHO IS HOSTING THE SC STEREO HACK?? The link is no longer working but maybe it changed hosts again somebody post up the info it you know it.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=43510
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=13134
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=32152
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=21078
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=13182
Search through that, get a wiring diagram, understand what needs to be done, and then you can tell the shop how to do it if you don't want to attempt it yourself.
WHO IS HOSTING THE SC STEREO HACK?? The link is no longer working but maybe it changed hosts again somebody post up the info it you know it.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=43510
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=13134
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=32152
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=21078
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=13182
Search through that, get a wiring diagram, understand what needs to be done, and then you can tell the shop how to do it if you don't want to attempt it yourself.
Originally posted by vondy21
I have searched all over this site and no one seems to agree on what to do.
Can you get good sound by adding aftermarket amps and speakers while keeping the stock head unit?
I keep finding partial answers to this. Has anyone done it and liked it?
Please let me know so I can plan my attack on the stock system.
Thanks
I have searched all over this site and no one seems to agree on what to do.
Can you get good sound by adding aftermarket amps and speakers while keeping the stock head unit?
I keep finding partial answers to this. Has anyone done it and liked it?
Please let me know so I can plan my attack on the stock system.
Thanks
jl audio xr 650 componet set for the front stage and the jl audio xr 525 for rear fill powered by a jl audio 300/4 amp for bass i have a single jl audio 10w7 subwoofer firing up thru the rear deck powered by a jl audio 500/1 amp this sounds incredible
Last edited by jewelz; May 27, 2003 at 06:02 PM.
IME, replaced the stock head unit.
I started out replacing the stock speakers with MB Quart (which I still use and have NO PROBLEMS with after proper tuning for you Dyne trend followers...lol, j/k) and did a full trunk job with two amps. I had always planned on upgrading the head unit, but in an effort to save a couple grand, I decided to hold off for a month or two. The problem I ran into was that even though I was able to use an LLC, the deck had a very low output voltage. It wouldn't drive my amps well at all and the result was low volume and alot of noise. I could only take it for about a week and I HAD to upgrade the HU.
Todd
I started out replacing the stock speakers with MB Quart (which I still use and have NO PROBLEMS with after proper tuning for you Dyne trend followers...lol, j/k) and did a full trunk job with two amps. I had always planned on upgrading the head unit, but in an effort to save a couple grand, I decided to hold off for a month or two. The problem I ran into was that even though I was able to use an LLC, the deck had a very low output voltage. It wouldn't drive my amps well at all and the result was low volume and alot of noise. I could only take it for about a week and I HAD to upgrade the HU.
Todd
So still mixed reviews....
Does anyone have any good ideas for a new HU?
I have seen some examples and nothing looks as nice, clean and "classy" as the factory HU.
Just seems wrong to stick in an out-of-place HU in this beautiful dash. EMO.
Thanks for your comments!!!
Does anyone have any good ideas for a new HU?
I have seen some examples and nothing looks as nice, clean and "classy" as the factory HU.
Just seems wrong to stick in an out-of-place HU in this beautiful dash. EMO.
Thanks for your comments!!!
todd-
http://www.soundoffaudio.com/item.cfm/id/1020
what if you use something like this to boost the low signal from the factory HU? Someone recommended it in another thread.
vondy21 -
www.nakamichi.com
http://www.soundoffaudio.com/item.cfm/id/1020
what if you use something like this to boost the low signal from the factory HU? Someone recommended it in another thread.
vondy21 -
www.nakamichi.com
Todd,
Gotta get you to listen to the Dyns one day...
Percy
Gotta get you to listen to the Dyns one day...

Percy
Originally posted by Rico's Revenge
IME, replaced the stock head unit.
I started out replacing the stock speakers with MB Quart (which I still use and have NO PROBLEMS with after proper tuning for you Dyne trend followers...lol, j/k) and did a full trunk job with two amps. I had always planned on upgrading the head unit, but in an effort to save a couple grand, I decided to hold off for a month or two. The problem I ran into was that even though I was able to use an LLC, the deck had a very low output voltage. It wouldn't drive my amps well at all and the result was low volume and alot of noise. I could only take it for about a week and I HAD to upgrade the HU.
Todd
IME, replaced the stock head unit.
I started out replacing the stock speakers with MB Quart (which I still use and have NO PROBLEMS with after proper tuning for you Dyne trend followers...lol, j/k) and did a full trunk job with two amps. I had always planned on upgrading the head unit, but in an effort to save a couple grand, I decided to hold off for a month or two. The problem I ran into was that even though I was able to use an LLC, the deck had a very low output voltage. It wouldn't drive my amps well at all and the result was low volume and alot of noise. I could only take it for about a week and I HAD to upgrade the HU.
Todd
LOL! I know Percy... I was just messing with you guys. I've listened to a couple cars with them and they sound very good, I think many of us on here have been spoiled by listening to too many really good set ups! I have a couple of friends at Quart/Rockford and they treat me too well to switch!
Pianoman, yes, you could use a line amplifier. I'm sure that Percy could help you find a very good one. The problem that I have is that I like simple. When you keep your factory head, you have to add an LLC, then you find a problem and you add a line driver (which I used an Audio Control EQL to equalize and boost signal, still not enough because the stock deck was so low on power), then you have noise and you add a ground loop isolator. I would rather put a quality deck in and call it a day...but that is just me and my opinion.
vondy, I had suggested a couple times elsewhere the Nakamichi CD45 with the MB70 6 disc in dash changer combo. This makes a 2 din unit that is black with green illumination and looks as close to stock as you're going to get. Clarion/MacIntosh have a couple units that would look good if they were black... I don't know if there is a factory option to get them black. Denon has a couple bad a$$ pieces but they are very expensive.
Pianoman, yes, you could use a line amplifier. I'm sure that Percy could help you find a very good one. The problem that I have is that I like simple. When you keep your factory head, you have to add an LLC, then you find a problem and you add a line driver (which I used an Audio Control EQL to equalize and boost signal, still not enough because the stock deck was so low on power), then you have noise and you add a ground loop isolator. I would rather put a quality deck in and call it a day...but that is just me and my opinion.
vondy, I had suggested a couple times elsewhere the Nakamichi CD45 with the MB70 6 disc in dash changer combo. This makes a 2 din unit that is black with green illumination and looks as close to stock as you're going to get. Clarion/MacIntosh have a couple units that would look good if they were black... I don't know if there is a factory option to get them black. Denon has a couple bad a$$ pieces but they are very expensive.
Do you have a pic of these installed?.....if it is your system of course.
I may go the factory HU route first then upgrade later. Can't hurt. Already have the amps and will need the new speakers regardless.
I have discovered my amps have speaker level inputs.... can I go directly into here without the LLC?????
Thanks!!!
I may go the factory HU route first then upgrade later. Can't hurt. Already have the amps and will need the new speakers regardless.
I have discovered my amps have speaker level inputs.... can I go directly into here without the LLC?????
Thanks!!!
I don't have that set up in my car. That was the original idea, but I went with something funkier...
Now I am going through another transformation, but it will take a while. I'll post some pics when it is done in a month or so. It has to be perfected.
Here is a site you can check out some Nak products on...
Nakamichi
Now I am going through another transformation, but it will take a while. I'll post some pics when it is done in a month or so. It has to be perfected.
Here is a site you can check out some Nak products on...
Nakamichi
I don't host the hack but I have it on my comptuer if anyone needs it pm me. Why do shops need this? My shop hooked up my head unit fine without it? Wonder if it would have helped him if I gave it to him
I gave him instructions how to take the head unit out which he was thankful about.
I gave him instructions how to take the head unit out which he was thankful about.
Originally posted by Pianoman72
I can't believe you guys are searching around and "not finding anything." Jacko you shop sucks. Period. They don't want to work on your car so don't make them. Here are some threads, but there is a problem with the first one.
WHO IS HOSTING THE SC STEREO HACK?? The link is no longer working but maybe it changed hosts again somebody post up the info it you know it.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=43510
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=13134
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=32152
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=21078
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=13182
Search through that, get a wiring diagram, understand what needs to be done, and then you can tell the shop how to do it if you don't want to attempt it yourself.
I can't believe you guys are searching around and "not finding anything." Jacko you shop sucks. Period. They don't want to work on your car so don't make them. Here are some threads, but there is a problem with the first one.
WHO IS HOSTING THE SC STEREO HACK?? The link is no longer working but maybe it changed hosts again somebody post up the info it you know it.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=43510
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=13134
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=32152
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=21078
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=13182
Search through that, get a wiring diagram, understand what needs to be done, and then you can tell the shop how to do it if you don't want to attempt it yourself.
My point is if the shop says that they "won't touch it" then they need all the help that they can get! If I were him I would use that stereo hack and do it myself.
Besides, the HACK is for connecting aftermarket amp to a factory HU, so you need to know what wire is what at the trunk and there is no adaptor available for that. There are adaptors for installing new headunits, thus no homework is required by the shop.
Now this thread is about new headunits but I think originally they were going to keep their factory HU and couldn't seem to find any information whatsoever on the topic. So if that's your goal go back up a few posts and click on those links I found or use the search feature.
It's a shame the SC stereo hack is no longer being hosted.
Besides, the HACK is for connecting aftermarket amp to a factory HU, so you need to know what wire is what at the trunk and there is no adaptor available for that. There are adaptors for installing new headunits, thus no homework is required by the shop.
Now this thread is about new headunits but I think originally they were going to keep their factory HU and couldn't seem to find any information whatsoever on the topic. So if that's your goal go back up a few posts and click on those links I found or use the search feature.
It's a shame the SC stereo hack is no longer being hosted.
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