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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Korbek
They could sell the all electric lexus version for 60k and I still wouldnt be the slightest bit interested.
For 60k I would buy 2 of them!
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 10:52 AM
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So no LC replacement in the foreseeable future then....

Begs the question, when will they actually cease production of the LC ?????
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 10:59 AM
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Ugh! Huge disappointment! Yes Boys take care of ur LC's They will still be turning heads many years up the road!! The last of the real naturally aspirated bullet proof V8's! You've got one. Thankful!
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Enzo954
For 60k I would buy 2 of them!
You already can. Buy two Teslas.

Not as nice of a form factor (presumably), but if you want a fast albeit heavy AF all electric car there are plenty already avail for far less than this lexus EV's projected price. The EV market doesnt have a lot of opportunity for success as a sports car. Enthusiasts dont want that nonsense (for the most part, there are exceptions to anything).

The LC500 is already pretty portly. A 6,000lb porker that sacrifices enthusiasts' desirables to chase EV markets will fail miserably.

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So no LC replacement in the foreseeable future then....

Begs the question, when will they actually cease production of the LC ?????
I'm praying at least not till next summer so that my bespoke hopefully gets built.

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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 01:27 PM
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Found on another enthusiast forum.

https://click.internetbrandsauto.com...9ca211ced36723

I agree the styling isn't aesthetically appealing and gave negative opinion a few days ago. The "form follows function" was especially interesting to me.
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 400Mman
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“The GR GT is not an appealing design IMO. Especially at the projected price. I think we scored with our LC500's. Future classic!”

I am 100% in agreement. As time marches on more and more folks are going to belatedly recognize just how special a car the LC 500 genuinely is. As I have mentioned before Lexus got so much right with this car. Seems they may have lost some of their mojo and direction now.
I don't believe the GR GT nor GR GT3 were intended to please those of us that already enjoy our remarkable LC 500's. nor replace it. We already own a classic unrecognized in the auto world. The GR is a statement piece by Toyota and designed to go head-to-toe with anyone and showcase superb engineering and design to a performance community which has thumbed its nose at the milk-toast perceived brand. We that drive the LC 500 all know what near perfection is at 120K'ish. Toyota wants that honor among the legacy brands at the track and thumb-back. (I have not attended any Toyota board meetings and comment is purely the opinion of the author)


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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 03:46 PM
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Sorry, but from the released photo’s and info, I find the new proposed models f’ugly and of absolutely no interest. Too bad, whereas I was so hopeful. Did that fired designer over at Jaguar somehow sneak into the Toyota pen? Anyway, onward and upward.

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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 05:04 PM
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You may not be an attendee at the Toyota corporation board meetings, but I do believe you are spot on in your assessment. Toyota has taken a very deliberate and hard pivot in the direction toward the high end performance car sector. Simply put, they want to show that they can certainly hang with the “cool car guys”. Based upon the published specs of the GR GT they’re pursuing the sub 3.5” 0-60 MPH and 1/4 mile 11” territory. A different crowd from the refined, beautifully elegant and supreme competence of Lexus LC 500.

GR GT Specs

Here's a quick rundown on the GR GT's key specs --
  • Maximum system output: 641 horsepower (or greater)
  • Maximum system torque: 627 ft.-lbs (or greater)
  • Length: 190 inches
  • Width: 79 inches
  • Height: 47 inches
  • Wheelbase: 107 inches
  • Body structure: All-aluminum body frame
  • Occupancy: 2
  • Vehicle weight: 3,858 lbs or lower
  • Weight distribution: 45 (front); 55 (rear)
  • Engine displacement: 4.0 L (3,998 cc)
  • Engine bore x stroke: 87.5 x 83.1 mm
  • Engine type: V8
  • Turbocharger: Twin-turbo
  • Electric motor: Transaxle-integrated single-motor hybrid
  • Transmission: Newly developed 8-speed automatic
  • Front engine, rear-wheel drive
  • Front & rear double wishbone suspension with coil springs
  • Carbon ceramic disc brakes
  • Tire sizes: Front: 265/35ZR20; rear: 325/30ZR20
  • Top speed: 199 mph (or greater)

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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 400Mman
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You may not be an attendee at the Toyota corporation board meetings, but I do believe you are spot on in your assessment. Toyota has taken a very deliberate and hard pivot in the direction toward the high end performance car sector. Simply put, they want to show that they can certainly hang with the “cool car guys”. Based upon the published specs of the GR GT they’re pursuing the sub 3.5” 0-60 MPH and 1/4 mile 11” territory. A different crowd from the refined, beautifully elegant and supreme competence of Lexus LC 500.
Yes. Very well said, plus, "A different crowd from the refined, beautifully elegant and supreme competence of Lexus LC 500". Made me consider. How could they replace/upgrade the LC, which was so carefully designed, with a meaningful improvement and price that'd have us wanting to trade? Perhaps possible, but perhaps an upper threshold had already been reached in practice.
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 05:43 PM
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Does the fact that the on-road GR will be hybrid whereas the GR GT3 track car will not because of design restrictions on the race circuit? Or what?
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ratchettt
Does the fact that the on-road GR will be hybrid whereas the GR GT3 track car will not because of design restrictions on the race circuit? Or what?
Yes exactly. IMSA GT3 class cannot have hybrid power.
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 06:54 PM
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Remember the Cadillac XLR?

I think that the new GR GT looks great. I also think that it is a much different animal than our LC 500's. This is a much more raw and visceral machine compared to the luxury GT spec of the LC500. The matte paint, and angular, weathered, spaceship sheetmetal make it look very purposeful. I like the rawness of it. Almost needs stencilled code letters sprayed on the fenders and fender hashes. I think there is hope for a luxury variant on this space frame. AND... Hopefully, the LFA electric will fade away and not be offered to the public.

Regarding Lexus: I think Lexus could offer this GT platform in a toned-down version with a slightly lower HP around 500hp and a much more refined body and interior with a power targa top for the luxury crowd. Similar to what Cadillac did for the Corvette and XLR convertible clone several years ago. The XLR has a cult following and was pretty much a Corvette under it's chiseled body.

I think there may be more to come from this platform than just a $200k+ super GT car.


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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 07:19 PM
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So reading up on the engine. It looks like two of the new 2.0 inline 4 turbos glued together at the crank. Is this good ? Don’t know but looking at how the new v35 v6TT turned into such a disaster, I wouldn’t buy the first few years on this new engine for sure.

I’m also thinking this aluminum chassis and interior don’t look anything special. If they want to charge LFA prices and gt3 prices, you better have something more exotic to attract buyers than that lousy interior and ho hum chassis. This isn’t the carbon fibre tub like the LFA, albeit it might be stiffer than the LFA, it’s still nothing special in this day and age and cannot command that pricing. LFA was a loss leader, looking at this car it’s pretty meh.

hopefully after a few generations they’ll figure it out but right now there’re isn’t anyone in Toyota that knows how to build a proper gt3 car. The last time as the LFA and majority of that team is probably retired. It’ll take years and years of refinement before this can be a competitive product
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 07:44 AM
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Wonder if they will use this new Lexus version in the Lexus Performance Driving School (if they have one in 2026)? If so and it performs accordingly, maybe it will help with sales. All 3 of the current versions that were being used are “retiring” from production.
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by np20412
Yes exactly. IMSA GT3 class cannot have hybrid power.
I'd like to know the mother-ship's reasoning regarding adding hybrid to the GR GT on road vehicle. Had to add to raw production cost plus I imagine design cost and testing marrying the transmission and electrics. The GT was quoted at 641 and 627 torque with top speed 199 mph. Not sure of numbers on the GT3. Just thinking how the hybrid set-up seems to add to production and technical complication. Perhaps the twin turbo V8 in the GT3 couldn't pass emissions or other regulations for public road use or what,

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