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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rmbrewer
What you use, Lou?
I have a 2018 and use Android Auto with Google Maps. Since AA wasn't offered on the LC until 2021, I use this:

https://carlinkitcarplay.com/product...actory-carplay

The only issue is I can't get the resolution to full screen. Other than that, it works GREAT

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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NickL
I don’t like my screen on all the time. And the time that the screen is off, I see all sorts of fingerprints on it. And it requires a couple of touches and a scroll to turn the screen off.
​​​​@NickL the way I have solved this to not require more than one touch or any scrolling is to say "Hey Lexus, show display settings" then give it a second, then tap the "Display off" icon. It works at speed and reduces the process to one single touch. You can then get to climate settings directly once screen is off by pressing the seat heater button to launch straight to that screen. Does not solve the fingerprint issue but does solve the navigating to the display off setting problem. It's annoying if you're in the middle of a conversation and want to turn it off via voice, but if you're alone all it'll do is interrupt your music for a second.

Interestingly, if you tell the Lexus voice commands something it doesn't understand, it will typically respond with something like "I'm sorry, I didn't get that" or something indicating that it doesn't know what you're asking it. However, if you say "Hey Lexus, turn display off" it responds with "I'm sorry, that feature is not available" which to me indicates that somewhere the software knows this is a command, but has explicitly disallowed it.
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Timado404
You need an Ottocast, then no reason for any phone holder. I've got it for IOS and it made a big difference with having to jack the phone. Connects via Bluetooth, streams via WiFi.

https://www.ottocast.com/

I also have the Beat-Sonic system installed (by Lexus) on my 2018 RXL for IOS wireless.

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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by np20412
​​​​@NickL the way I have solved this to not require more than one touch or any scrolling is to say "Hey Lexus, show display settings" then give it a second, then tap the "Display off" icon. It works at speed and reduces the process to one single touch. You can then get to climate settings directly once screen is off by pressing the seat heater button to launch straight to that screen. Does not solve the fingerprint issue but does solve the navigating to the display off setting problem. It's annoying if you're in the middle of a conversation and want to turn it off via voice, but if you're alone all it'll do is interrupt your music for a second.

Interestingly, if you tell the Lexus voice commands something it doesn't understand, it will typically respond with something like "I'm sorry, I didn't get that" or something indicating that it doesn't know what you're asking it. However, if you say "Hey Lexus, turn display off" it responds with "I'm sorry, that feature is not available" which to me indicates that somewhere the software knows this is a command, but has explicitly disallowed it.
Good tip. I only got as far as “Hey Lexus, turn the display off”
Then it responded something like “Sorry, can’t do”
Then I would say “ Turn the ****ing screen off”
Then it would respond “ Sorry, I don’t understand”

It’s really weird that if you turn on the climate by pressing the seat/steering wheel heater button, the screen would stay on indefinitely.

Anyways, small first world problem I think and especially for me driving less than 3k miles a year on the LC.

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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NickL
My ‘24 factory navigation is based off of google map.
When I’m using CarPlay map, I also use google map. So they’re the same for me.
I do find the previous gen Lexus navigation is very inefficient.
Yes, the Lexus factory navigation app is surprisingly amazing. You get full screen, voice command integration, and real-time traffic.
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by np20412
​​​​@NickL the way I have solved this to not require more than one touch or any scrolling is to say "Hey Lexus, show display settings" then give it a second, then tap the "Display off" icon. It works at speed and reduces the process to one single touch. You can then get to climate settings directly once screen is off by pressing the seat heater button to launch straight to that screen. Does not solve the fingerprint issue but does solve the navigating to the display off setting problem. It's annoying if you're in the middle of a conversation and want to turn it off via voice, but if you're alone all it'll do is interrupt your music for a second.

Interestingly, if you tell the Lexus voice commands something it doesn't understand, it will typically respond with something like "I'm sorry, I didn't get that" or something indicating that it doesn't know what you're asking it. However, if you say "Hey Lexus, turn display off" it responds with "I'm sorry, that feature is not available" which to me indicates that somewhere the software knows this is a command, but has explicitly disallowed it.
I have long solved the problem of fingerprints on my screen...

I drive a 2018. 😉
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 2959
You need an Ottocast, then no reason for any phone holder. I've got it for IOS and it made a big difference with having to jack the phone. Connects via Bluetooth, streams via WiFi.

https://www.ottocast.com/

I also have the Beat-Sonic system installed (by Lexus) on my 2018 RXL for IOS wireless.
I don't have Car Play, nor do I want my dash taken apart. Looks like a great product though and thanks indeed for the info. I installed a wireless front cam that opens by an APP on my phone, so it's all pretty convenient. Would definitely get this product if it supported downloading of APP's, for my front cam, and didn't need Car Play. 👍🏾
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 12:10 PM
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Remind me, is the native Lexus navigation cloud based? Is that the thing that comes with free first 3 years or is it 10 years? What happens when that expires? Navigation no longer works or just doesn’t update?
I still have traffic info(although not 100% accurate) on my 2015 GS in the native navigation.
This cloud based stuff and subscription seems like a wallet pincher.

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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NickL
Remind me, is the native Lexus navigation cloud based? Is that the thing that comes with free first 3 years or is it 10 years? What happens when that expires? Navigation no longer works or just doesn’t update?
I still have traffic info(although not 100% accurate) on my 2015 GS in the native navigation.
This cloud based stuff and subscription seems like a wallet pincher.
It's 3 years for the Dynamic Navigation. The 10 year trial is Service or Safety Connect, go figure they want to make it easier to bring your car in for service lol.

Once the 3 years are up, the navigation will still work, but you will lose access to things like the updated map and points of interest. The software will revert to whatever was installed at the time your vehicle was produced. So if in year 2 of ownership a new road and a mcdonalds is built near you, that will be in your maps until your trial expires, at which point, that road and mcdonalds will no longer show up in your maps if you don't subscribe.

edit: Above is what happened on my 2021 Sienna which came with a similar 3 year trial for Dynamic Nav. That said, I see the newer models ie 23+ come with "Drive Connect" which includes the nav. I'm less clear what will happen here, but I am inclined to think it will be the same. May lose traffic info though, but I think overall Nav will still work and just won't receive the real-time route and POI info, or any subsequent map updates.

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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 12:38 PM
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Thanks.
MA just recently re-numbered all the exit numbers on the interstates. Let me see if my 2015/2016/2017 Lexus still has the old numbers.
Really doesn’t matter though as I find those Navi are pretty much useless and use google maps on my phone. Someday I will shell out the $750 and get Beatsonic S connect on one of them but there’s always that “I don’t know how long I’m going to keep this car for”.
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by np20412
It's 3 years for the Dynamic Navigation. The 10 year trial is Service or Safety Connect, go figure they want to make it easier to bring your car in for service lol.

Once the 3 years are up, the navigation will still work, as will real time traffic updates, but you will lose access to things like the updated map and points of interest. The software will revert to whatever was installed at the time your vehicle was produced. So if in year 2 of ownership a new road and a mcdonalds is built near you, that will be in your maps until your trial expires, at which point, that road and mcdonalds will no longer show up in your maps if you don't subscribe.
So I assume it reverts back to Lexus map? Or google map? right now it uses google map(??) if it uses google map, how can it be static map and not updated map? How do I change to Lexus map right now?
I’m so confused lol.

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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NickL
So I assume it reverts back to Lexus map? Or google map? right now it uses google map(??) if it uses google map, how can it be static map and not updated map? How do I change to Lexus map right now?
I’m so confused lol.
yeah this is why I'm less sure given the newer models and the Drive Connect service package. It's possible it will lock out entirely if it doesn't have a baseline version of the map already installed somewhere.

https://www.gpsworld.com/mapbox-coll...vigation-tech/

I don't think it's Google Maps based

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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 03:47 PM
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CarPlay with Apple maps on my '24. I like getting the directions on the HUD.
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Old Jan 16, 2025 | 08:00 AM
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Lexus Generation 12 Nav was introduced for model year 2022 LX / NX then 2023 ES / LS / RX / RZ / UX and 2024 GX / LC / TX
Gen 12 is Cloud Navigation meaning that there are NO embedded maps built into the vehicle and all map data is delivered over the cloud.
Three-year trial included with the big screen, zero trial included with the base sized screen. $15/month if you subscribe through the Lexus App.
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