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I can not imagine not being able to drive the LC everyday..here in N CA. the only thing to worry about is rain.
Same. I think I lived somewhere that I had to garage a car for 5-6 months a year I would just not bother. The value wouldn't be there for me personally unless it was a true exotic and I had probably 3x the assets I do now.
I just got off the phone with my dealer’s parts department. He asked the master tech and he basically said that he can’t guarantee the lug nuts wheels can be mounted with the lug bolts. He’s unsure that the surface of the lug nuts wheels will mate with the bolts. Basically, he can’t recommend doing it because if it doesn’t work out, I would lose a lot of money.
But the parts guy was able to source the winter tires for OEM sizes. They are the Continental Viking Contact 7 in 245/40/21 and 275/35/21.
I have them ordered these while I look for a set of ‘24 LC500 wheels.
Wife is going to be ecstatic when she see another set of wheels in the basement.
And actually you can see the difference in the lug nuts and lug bolts surface are not the same. So if you’re thinking of using previous MY wheels on the ‘24 LC500, beware!
Lug bolt style. You can see there’s an indentation/ step for the bolt to sit in
Can't speak to the wheel fitment differences between the 2024 and the earlier LC models, but regarding tires, I assume you are not looking to drive this car in the snow, just when its cold (I could be wrong though). Even with snow tires mounted, my experience with high powered, front engine, rear wheel drive cars with really fat tires has not been great in snow (even with the traction controls off). If you don't want to drive in snow (just in cold), and are not a performance driver wanting max g-force handling, all seasons are the way to go. You can still get "Y" rated speed performance tires like the Michelin as4, just have to upsize the front to 255 instead of 245. Based on what you posted, I also assumed you were thinking about removing your summer tires off the current wheels and installing the Continental Viking Contact 7 on them for now until you get another set of wheels for winter use. A major thing to consider though (and I am surprised the dealer suggested those tires) is that tire is a "T" speed rated true snow tire (not an all season) and recommended as a pure winter tire for passenger cars, crossovers and SUV's. It is not a performance tire, and rated at well below the recommended speed rating for the LC500. I suspect it would not be recommended for extended use on dry pavement too as it probably would wear quickly. I am not sure how it would ride or sound either as snow tires are not built for quiet, they are built to cut through snow and the rubber is made to perform in very cold temperatures. They can be whiny. It is not a cheap tire either. You could probably get the Michelin A/S 4 for close to same expense, and get a more versatile tire that you would not have to remove at end of winter. You can at least use that until you decide whether to get a seperate winter set of rims or not. Just my 2 cents.
Can't speak to the wheel fitment differences between the 2024 and the earlier LC models, but regarding tires, I assume you are not looking to drive this car in the snow, just when its cold (I could be wrong though). Even with snow tires mounted, my experience with high powered, front engine, rear wheel drive cars with really fat tires has not been great in snow (even with the traction controls off). If you don't want to drive in snow (just in cold), and are not a performance driver wanting max g-force handling, all seasons are the way to go. You can still get "Y" rated speed performance tires like the Michelin as4, just have to upsize the front to 255 instead of 245. Based on what you posted, I also assumed you were thinking about removing your summer tires off the current wheels and installing the Continental Viking Contact 7 on them for now until you get another set of wheels for winter use. A major thing to consider though (and I am surprised the dealer suggested those tires) is that tire is a "T" speed rated true snow tire (not an all season) and recommended as a pure winter tire for passenger cars, crossovers and SUV's. It is not a performance tire, and rated at well below the recommended speed rating for the LC500. I suspect it would not be recommended for extended use on dry pavement too as it probably would wear quickly. I am not sure how it would ride or sound either as snow tires are not built for quiet, they are built to cut through snow and the rubber is made to perform in very cold temperatures. They can be whiny. It is not a cheap tire either. You could probably get the Michelin A/S 4 for close to same expense, and get a more versatile tire that you would not have to remove at end of winter. You can at least use that until you decide whether to get a seperate winter set of rims or not. Just my 2 cents.
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I’m not looking to drive in the snow. Just cold and dry. Probably all season is a better choice. I’m just not an all season tire guy. It’s either summer or snow tires and I do swap my wheels twice a year.
I’m not unmount and mount the tires. I’m buying separate wheels.
I had dedicated snow set up on my GSF(Michellin Alpin 5) and the ride quality was superb and I was able to drive in snow just fine.
But I do have to think twice about this snow tires on the LC as I’m not planning on driving in snow. But it’s NE here and I can get caught in unexpected snow squalls. Been rare lately but it does happen.
I live in NY, so can have snowy winters, but I will not go out if the roads are sandy or salted. My car is not a daily driver, so I have alternate transportation in bad weather. If it is a dry winter, I like going out on the nice days though. I was debating on getting second set of 20" rims with readily available stock size all season tires. They would never see snow, so that would be fine, and the ride would likely be better and quieter than snow tires, plus a bit more sidewall in case I catch a winter pothole. I would then keep the summer tires on the 21"wheels and swap seasonally. Would extend the time before having to replace either set, as they would share the mileage too. However, the last car I did that on was an Audi RS5, with stock 20" wheels. I bought a second set of wheels and mounted the all season's on them figuring I would swap them. That car was an all wheel drive, so if I wanted to drive in snow or ice, I could, but generally would not. After the first season, I found the all seasons to be more than adequate, and I got lazy and just left them on all year. So, I am undecided which route to go right now. I hate having extra wheels and tires taking up space in my garage. If I could find a local tire shop that would store them and do the swaps seasonally, I might be more inclined to get second set. Ezy-peezy then.
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I’m not looking to drive in the snow. Just cold and dry. Probably all season is a better choice. I’m just not an all season tire guy. It’s either summer or snow tires and I do swap my wheels twice a year.
I’m not unmount and mount the tires. I’m buying separate wheels.
I had dedicated snow set up on my GSF(Michellin Alpin 5) and the ride quality was superb and I was able to drive in snow just fine.
But I do have to think twice about this snow tires on the LC as I’m not planning on driving in snow. But it’s NE here and I can get caught in unexpected snow squalls. Been rare lately but it does happen.
Does anyone know: if you use two sets of wheels (summer/winter) whether or not you need to have the dealer or a tire shop reset the TPMSs to the LC everytime you swap?
Does anyone know: if you use two sets of wheels (summer/winter) whether or not you need to have the dealer or a tire shop reset the TPMSs to the LC everytime you swap?
On my ‘24 LC, there’s a change wheel set on TPMS.
So they did think of people having two sets of wheels unlike my GSF where they removed this feature.
I live in NY, so can have snowy winters, but I will not go out if the roads are sandy or salted. My car is not a daily driver, so I have alternate transportation in bad weather. If it is a dry winter, I like going out on the nice days though. I was debating on getting second set of 20" rims with readily available stock size all season tires. They would never see snow, so that would be fine, and the ride would likely be better and quieter than snow tires, plus a bit more sidewall in case I catch a winter pothole. I would then keep the summer tires on the 21"wheels and swap seasonally. Would extend the time before having to replace either set, as they would share the mileage too. However, the last car I did that on was an Audi RS5, with stock 20" wheels. I bought a second set of wheels and mounted the all season's on them figuring I would swap them. That car was an all wheel drive, so if I wanted to drive in snow or ice, I could, but generally would not. After the first season, I found the all seasons to be more than adequate, and I got lazy and just left them on all year. So, I am undecided which route to go right now. I hate having extra wheels and tires taking up space in my garage. If I could find a local tire shop that would store them and do the swaps seasonally, I might be more inclined to get second set. Ezy-peezy then.
Either way, I would have to store a set of tires or wheels. Take the same amount of space.
I always have a second sets of wheels. Figure they would extend the life and I wouldn’t have to change the tires for awhile even though I know I already spent the money up front. I also think it would be wise on cars that don’t have spare tires and non runflat. I’m rarely more than an hour away from home driving by myself. So if I got a flat, I can call someone at home to bring me a wheel and change rather than relying on the goop and likely destroy the TPMS sensor/stem valve.
I’m set on getting another set of wheels. Just need to think if I really want the snow tires or if the AS is fine. Like you said, I’ll probably get lazy and just drive with the AS year round.
And also which wheels I want the AS tires on. I love the matte black bespoke wheels on it now. I don’t know if I want to dismount the PS5 tires on them now and have AS put on. Or put the AS on the standard wheels which I might end up using year round.
On my ‘24 LC, there’s a change wheel set on TPMS.
So they did think of people having two sets of wheels unlike my GSF where they removed this feature.
Thanks very much! That's great to know. I had read somewhere else in this forum that you needed a special tool and some expertise to reset the LC to the wheel TPMSs when you switched out wheels. Maybe it was for an older MY.
I live in MA as well and went with a separate set of OEM winter 21s with all seasons and non-OEM TPMS. I did try to get snow tires before I did this setup but was unsuccessful in getting tires (out of stock; no sizes etc.).
With respect to resetting the TPMS, below are the steps that I used and so far no issues with both OEM and non-OEM TPMSs. I just swapped out of summer into the all seasons.
Start the engine and keep the vehicle in PARK.
Select “Settings” (gear icon) using the steering wheel LEFT/RIGHT buttons.
Select “Vehicles Settings” then press and hold the center OK button.
Select “TPWS” (Tire Pressure Warning System), then select “Change Wheel.”
Press and hold the OK button until the TPMS warning light flashes 3 times.
Drive the vehicle for 10-30 minutes, staying above 25mph when possible, and the light will turn off once the sensors are registered. Note: Refrain from reversing and driving in heavy traffic during the relearn process.
Park and allow the tires to cool for at least 3 hours.
After the light has turned off, place the vehicle in PARK and select “Settings” again.
Select “Vehicle Settings” then press and hold the OK button.
Select “TPWS”, then select “Set Pressure.”
Press and hold the OK button until the TPMS warning light flashes 3 times.
Drive the vehicle for 10-30 minutes, staying above 25mph when possible, and the light will turn off once the current tire pressures values are accepted.
I’m set on getting another set of wheels. Just need to think if I really want the snow tires or if the AS is fine. Like you said, I’ll probably get lazy and just drive with the AS year round.
I'm in MA like you and I'm gonna run A/S year round on my LC. If you're like most others, you have another car which means that you're not likely to take the LC out in conditions where you would "need" dedicated snow tires (which is less and less the last few years as you know). On the flip side, during the summer, because the LC is a grand tourer and not a sports car, I found that I did not drive it in a manner where I "needed" the Pilot Sport 5s that the car came with. The Pilot Sport A/S 4s will suffice for me.
I'm in MA like you and I'm gonna run A/S year round on my LC. If you're like most others, you have another car which means that you're not likely to take the LC out in conditions where you would "need" dedicated snow tires (which is less and less the last few years as you know). On the flip side, during the summer, because the LC is a grand tourer and not a sports car, I found that I did not drive it in a manner where I "needed" the Pilot Sport 5s that the car came with. The Pilot Sport A/S 4s will suffice for me.
I’m in talks with Vossen on a set of 20” HF5 and have them provide the lugs bolts that will mate with their wheels.
I always like the look of the HF5 and the price is similar to what I’m going to spend on the OEM wheels from Japan. I decided to go with 20 because there’s a plethora of tire selections including some very good winter tires. Swapping wheels twice a year is not a big deal for me.