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Old Jul 23, 2023 | 04:53 AM
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So Much Rampant ignorance here.
Discount Tire will patch a RF ALL DAY LONG IF you haven't damaged the tire by running it flat. Yes, that's it's purpose but it is asininely easy to avoid.
You have one of the best TPMS made. USE IT. Every Single Time I drive the LC, within 5 miles, I've checked the pressure. If it's low, I pull over, pop the trunk and use my 12v air pump to get it back up. THEN get to the tire place for repair.
Tires that have been driven flat will exhibit damage that is obvious to a tire tech, yes, Then They Won't fix the flat.
But then that's not the tires fault, that's the ignorant, uniformed, lazy *** drivers fault.
PS Our tires are Low Profile. They are Going To Ride Like Crap because of That Not Because they are run flats. If you aren't ignorant and have Google you'd know that current RFs perform Very Close to NON RFs.
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Old Jul 23, 2023 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Enzo954
Why all the hate for RF tires? My car came with the Michelin RF's and this is the first time I've ever had tires like this. I do notice that the ride is a little rougher than I was expecting. Not sure if it's the RF's or the 21 inch rims or the combo of both.
That would be because people are ignorant and don't know what the hell they are talking about.
RFs perform in tests almost the same as comparable sized NON RF.
It is so easy to NOT damage a flat RF that can Then be plugged and patched All Day Long.
Course some eedeeits want to make their LC a Low Ridah too. 🙄😵‍💫
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Old Jul 23, 2023 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BruceinFla
That would be because people are ignorant and don't know what the hell they are talking about.
RFs perform in tests almost the same as comparable sized NON RF.
It is so easy to NOT damage a flat RF that can Then be plugged and patched All Day Long.
Course some eedeeits want to make their LC a Low Ridah too. 🙄😵‍💫
​​​​​​It is a scientific fact that money eats brain cells.
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Sorry but your blanket statements are incorrect. I see you’re also in FL so happy to share 2 Tire kingdoms and 1 discount tire in Orlando that will refuse to patch without damage or being ridden upon. Including Lexus of Winter park and Lexus of Orlando due to liability.

to imply that people are ignorant is ignorant. Your experience maybe different. But my experience is correct and rooted in real events not google.

moving on
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Old Jul 23, 2023 | 11:54 AM
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Not a bit of a problem with the Discount Tire in Palm Bay, Fl. They put 2 of their most experienced techs on it.

​​​​Perhaps some customers come across abrasively and they just don't want to take any chances with them, if NO one will help them when the Tire Makers themselves say fixing RFs is fine.
I will call it like I see it.
Uniformed, Ignorant, call it what you will. To say you know more than the building full of Lexus Engineers that speced our car and the same at Michelin and Stones that designed tires Specifically For our car, along with the current tire tests that show basically no difference between RFD and Non is either one or both of those IMO. The incessant Eff these crappy RFs suck get them off my car just gets old.
It also isn't on Your Job Description to invalidate My opinion but thanks for trying.

We are ALL ignorant.

Just on different subjects.
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Old Jul 23, 2023 | 12:25 PM
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screw you guys!!!! im gonna put "triangle" brand cheapy Chinese tires on my LC500 as soon as these supersports wear out. too bad they dont make them that big, otherwise i probably would.

I drive the speed limit for the most part so in honesty any tire will do.
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Old Jul 23, 2023 | 12:42 PM
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I don't go that far above the limit myself (but don't waste much time Getting there) but Florida has, from May to September, afternoon thunderstorms of biblical proportions. They are there 1 minute and down the road the next. You want good tires if you get caught out in 1 of those.
A tropical storm did not go where it was supposed to and I drove my brand new to me LC home 600 miles through it.
I was Very Happy for good tires and traction control.
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Old Jul 23, 2023 | 03:27 PM
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The jury seems to be out on whether or not RFTs are reparable - Me, I'm one of those ignorant fellas who wont use 'em:

https://www.bushtyres.co.uk/tyre-new...yre%20interior.
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Old Jul 23, 2023 | 08:46 PM
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Your Honor, the Prosecution rests.

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Old Jul 24, 2023 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceinFla

We are ALL ignorant.

Just on different subjects.
Bruce in Fl
"the only thing necessary for learning ... is ignorance "
- james clerk maxwell

it would seem then that we are all in luck !

and whether it is debatable that a RFT is reparable, or should be repaired, or is not debatable,
one thing we can agree on without debate is
that every tire will fail
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Old Jul 25, 2023 | 05:16 AM
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Sorry. Disagree. It is readily available online From The People Who Make The Tires Themselves that given the same plug/patch parameters as Non RF, RF are Totally Repairable. If someone Insists on saying Oh no, that's wrong, those tire makers don't know what they're talking about, that transcends simple ignorance and jumps right into full blown stupidity.
FWIW, Motorcycle tires go through much more stresses that any non track driven LC tire. I have personally plugged, not even plugged AND patched as is the reco, and I've had nearly new plugged bike tires be totally serviceable their entire normal lifespan.
Now yes, I was more careful to routinely check the pressure on it but that was it.
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Old Jul 25, 2023 | 11:13 AM
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^^^^Ok so now I'm both ignorant and stupid Want to throw any more insults around You have made your point, that's now enough!
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Old Jul 25, 2023 | 12:23 PM
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To me there is a big difference between knowing what the experts say and deciding to go another way and listening and reading the experts and overtly saying, No that's not right.
I didn't see you doing the latter.
And actually Sick, I didn't see you making any "Anti" RF statements nor flat out saying RFs can't be repaired.
You simply stated you preferred not to use RFs.
​​​You aren't recommending Everyone should do that, it's certainly your prerogative to run whatever tire you so desire to on your own car as long as that tire isn't a danger to others on the road.
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