you can't in my lc500 either, unless they have V. short legs.

 

Oh it's comical, cars of that class never had legroom unless sitting on top of your legs counts!

However that makes sense, a seat like that doesn't IMO for an ostensibly useful SUV

 

the sooner they fire Akio toyoda, THE BETTER!!
cramped, spartan, noisy engine with the AUDACITY of having a lexus badge. This should be a toyota not a lexus.

 

Well, I'm not going to defend everything Lexus does by any means...there are some features about the way their more recent vehicles are designed, and the materials they use, that I don't like at all. But IMO it's a stretch to pan them for offering subcompact vehicles. A LOT of people want subcompact crossovers these days, particularly upscale ones like this. They want something that is nicer than a mainstream interior, ride, and noise-isolation, but still small and maneuverable enough to be able to easily adapt to tight parking spaces and crowded conditions. The Lexus UX/LBX and BMW X1 are good examples of that.....as is also the Buick Encore GX.

You also complain about a "noisy" engine. Lexus, in general, is not in the habit of producing noisy powerplants, although in the case of the disappointing 1Gen NX (not the far better current 2Gen version) they did skimp somewhat on the road/wind-noise isolation.

 

Under Akio Toyoda, engine noise has increased. In fact, he was the one who authorized the insanely stupid piped in engine noise in the ls500. Your point about the BMW X1 and the encore is well taken (although bmw doesn’t have a sub-brand to market under. Lexus does.)

Your point doesn’t change my position that the lbx should have a toyota badge, not a lexus one. I’d rather see a nicer compact Toyota than a budget cost cutting cramped, loud Lexus. Those shortcomings need to be addressed before it’s worthy of a lexus badge.

 

I like the central console with huge multimedia systems, reminds me of the lates MB cars.

 

Yea I like that center console too. This just occurred to me, the LBX logo should have been a top of the line Toyota trim where lbx stands for Lexus Based Extras. This vehicle could have been the Toyota Yaris LBX trim. That way it feels like an upgrade for Toyotas rather than a downgrade from Lexus.

 

After seeing the UX again on the streets and looking in the interior, I feel like the LBX will be a huge upgrade over the UX.

 

That would diminish the value of Lexus as a brand.

 

Wouldn't do Toyota any favors either.

"Check out our new flagship vehicle, the only Toyota model with features and finishes pulled from our luxury brand, Lexus!"
"It's.....the smallest vehicle you offer."
"Yes but it's our flagship!"

The messaging wouldn't really work.

 

LBX can be a trim on ALL of the models. That’s the point I was making

 

The lbx already does that in my view. So at least with the lbx trim idea toyota would see some benefit.

 

Which is why I'm glad its not coming here. Lexus needs to distance themselves from Toyota not glom together with Toyota in the customer's mind. If people want Lexus features and design, they can buy a Lexus.

 

fully agree. My suggestion was just a bandaid to the alternative.

 

It is hilarious to read these comments.

This car is not for USA.

While we Europeans have legs, this is the most sold class of a vehicle in Europe today and Yaris Cross is best selling Toyota in Europe. Next one is regular Yaris.

LBX has large from seats that you can slide all the way back, if you have someone in back, you still not do that. Old Toyotas used to limit how far back you can deliver but why.

Anyway i rode in the back of Yaris Cross and you still survive.

Reason people buy this or UX it's not cheap price, but small size. That's the purpose of is existence, size that can fit small roads, garages and parking spaces.