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Jul 5, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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http://www.dinancars.com/store/produ...cat=505&page=1 who will win??
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Jul 5, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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First, it should try and beat the m3.....

I think it will pull in a quick run below 140mph, but after that IS-F will take over.

Take a look at these videos...

If you are running straight lines its one thing, easy.

But if you take that 335i, out on the race track, it will get so much heat soak that most of the time the turbos shut down.


335i vs m3

modded e92 m3 vs e92 335i
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Jul 5, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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I really cant speak for all isf owners... But with just a secondary cat delete i beat the fastest JB3 335i in south Florida that i know of. Got the video to prove it
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Jul 5, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Dinan tuned 335i's are faster than E92 M3's, and they're also faster than IS-F's. Reliability is another (separate) conversation, but this thread is focusing on performance. An IS-F also won't be able to turn with either one of those cars on a track.

Javier
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Jul 5, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Quote: Dinan tuned 335i's are faster than E92 M3's, and they're also faster than IS-F's. Reliability is another (separate) conversation, but this thread is focusing on performance. An IS-F also won't be able to turn with either one of those cars on a track.

Javier
My sibling has the e90 335i, and the handling is great, but I wouldn't say that it outhandles the F. The steering feel is heavier, and the chassis is rock solid, but the F is just as capable, if not more. So unless the e92 handles better than the e90, I would have to disagree.

In terms of acceleration, that turbo setup is so mod friendly that you can cheaply tune that car to be a monster! So I wouldn't be surprised for it to beat a lot of performance cars. I agree that reliability is always going to be a concern.
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Jul 5, 2009 | 11:17 PM
  #6  
hmm....This is kind of interesting.....
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Jul 6, 2009 | 12:12 AM
  #7  
I posted a video of a dinan tuned 335i vs a new m3 on the track.

Who won? lol

I posted a video of a jb3 335i vs new m3 who won?

straight line = ?

Turns = ?

I think the IS-F is more capable of out running a 335i on the race track, OEM vs OEM.
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Jul 6, 2009 | 12:23 AM
  #8  
No comment!!!!
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Jul 6, 2009 | 12:37 AM
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Btw Dinan and BMW have severed all relationships. So BMW wont even touch your dinan car if something happens.
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Jul 6, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Quote: I really cant speak for all isf owners... But with just a secondary cat delete i beat the fastest JB3 335i in south Florida that i know of. Got the video to prove it
is that the run you did when i was in Danny's Viper??
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Jul 6, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Sweet, magazine racing!!

Quote: I posted a video of a dinan tuned 335i vs a new m3 on the track.

Who won? lol
By 3/10 of a second on the circuit and 1/10 of a second in the 1/4 mile? I'd hardly call that a win. That's so close that if you ran that test 10 times, you'd probably get 10 different results.

Quote: I posted a video of a jb3 335i vs new m3 who won?
You mean the one where the 335i pulls on the M3 on both of the runs where the M3 didn't jump the start?

Quote: I think the IS-F is more capable of out running a 335i on the race track, OEM vs OEM.
Stock vs. stock, sure the IS-F would probably win. However OP was asking about an IS-F vs. a Dinan-tuned 335i, which as we can all see is as fast (or faster) than an M3. Having driven all three of these cars on closed racetracks, I'm sorry to inform the Lexus faithful that the handling in the BMW - both the 335i and the M3 - was better than the IS-F. I am by no means saying that the IS-F has poor handling, far from it. But if you've ever driven a BMW hard, you would know exactly what I mean when I talk about handling. Fantastic turn in, very connected feel, and easy to drive fast. Combine this with the fact that there are several tuned 335i's running high 11's in the 1/4 mile (with most of the others running low to mid-12's), and the gap begins to widen. The absolute best IS-F 1/4 mile known so far is James' 12.385. The 335i also has the weight advantage (3593 or 3605 lbs. depending if you want stick or not) over the IS-F (3780 lbs).

Javier
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Jul 6, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Quote: is that the run you did when i was in Danny's Viper??
Ya. Thats one of them. Remember the cop!!! that was a fun night.
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Jul 6, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Quote: Sweet, magazine racing!!


By 3/10 of a second on the circuit and 1/10 of a second in the 1/4 mile? I'd hardly call that a win. That's so close that if you ran that test 10 times, you'd probably get 10 different results.



You mean the one where the 335i pulls on the M3 on both of the runs where the M3 didn't jump the start?

Stock vs. stock, sure the IS-F would probably win. However OP was asking about an IS-F vs. a Dinan-tuned 335i, which as we can all see is as fast (or faster) than an M3. Having driven all three of these cars on closed racetracks, I'm sorry to inform the Lexus faithful that the handling in the BMW - both the 335i and the M3 - was better than the IS-F. I am by no means saying that the IS-F has poor handling, far from it. But if you've ever driven a BMW hard, you would know exactly what I mean when I talk about handling. Fantastic turn in, very connected feel, and easy to drive fast. Combine this with the fact that there are several tuned 335i's running high 11's in the 1/4 mile (with most of the others running low to mid-12's), and the gap begins to widen. The absolute best IS-F 1/4 mile known so far is James' 12.385. The 335i also has the weight advantage (3593 or 3605 lbs. depending if you want stick or not) over the IS-F (3780 lbs).

Javier
Real IS-Fs don't weigh 3780. Mine weighed 3742 with a quarter tank of fuel and spare, jack, first aid kit and everything. Completely bone stock. Must be a magazine number with radar cruise, headlight washers, and every other conceivable option.

Besides, the GT-R at the track day I attended wasn't pulling on me down the fastest part of the track from turn 8 to turn 11, so I figure the F isn't nearly as slow as some of these magazine racers would like to believe.
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Jul 6, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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To the O/P ....

Lets seee...

You can buy a reliable N/A (400HP) engine for 48k

Or

You can buy a TT built engine, that has massive heat soak for 50k + add on top of that 7grand more to upgrade it to 400+hp status.

You be the judge.
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Jul 7, 2009 | 05:33 AM
  #15  
Just buy a 135i and Dinan the hell out of it. You'll have just as much power but with 400 lbs less. I'm surprised we are not seeing more rediculous Dinan and JB3 135 kill videos. They should be plenty faster then an similarly equipped 335i.
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