Which Oil Filter?
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Yep. Just like the old Supra days. The "made in Japan" filters were considered "better" than the made in USA or made in Thailand filters, but no one had any solid proof this was true in any way.
I seriously doubt there is any filtering difference, and my UOA supports the Thai made filter delivering clean oil to the engine. I'll take the YZZ4, thank you.
I seriously doubt there is any filtering difference, and my UOA supports the Thai made filter delivering clean oil to the engine. I'll take the YZZ4, thank you.
^^^ I can't see the pics here at work.. (firewalls)
So the size / specs are exactly the same between the two??
(leaving out the filtering differences, if any)
Joe Z
Lou
Yep. Just like the old Supra days. The "made in Japan" filters were considered "better" than the made in USA or made in Thailand filters, but no one had any solid proof this was true in any way.
I seriously doubt there is any filtering difference, and my UOA supports the Thai made filter delivering clean oil to the engine. I'll take the YZZ4, thank you.
Oh, the "you bought a $60k car, why are you cheaping out on it" is no different than paying $40 a liter for the magical V-160 oil for the Getrag in the Supra. V-160 oil is just Dexron II. Dexron III is a suitable substitute according to every lubrication engineer I've talked to. The only Dex III you can't run in the Getrag is Red Line D-4 ATF since it has too much seal swell in it for the DU bushing in the gearbox. I fixed mine after I had an issue with it, and now I run Mobil 1 ATF - it's worked great for years and doesn't cost $40 a liter. Sometimes you have to spend money. Many times you don't. Knowing when and where is the difference between poverty and wealth.
I seriously doubt there is any filtering difference, and my UOA supports the Thai made filter delivering clean oil to the engine. I'll take the YZZ4, thank you.
Oh, the "you bought a $60k car, why are you cheaping out on it" is no different than paying $40 a liter for the magical V-160 oil for the Getrag in the Supra. V-160 oil is just Dexron II. Dexron III is a suitable substitute according to every lubrication engineer I've talked to. The only Dex III you can't run in the Getrag is Red Line D-4 ATF since it has too much seal swell in it for the DU bushing in the gearbox. I fixed mine after I had an issue with it, and now I run Mobil 1 ATF - it's worked great for years and doesn't cost $40 a liter. Sometimes you have to spend money. Many times you don't. Knowing when and where is the difference between poverty and wealth.
Lou
Couldn't disagree more with this statement. the difference between spending $4.00 a quart and spending $40.00 a quart is tremendous. But saving $3.00 will not amass any fortunes, but loosing 10k out of pocket for a new engine because YOU installed the wrong filter will sure put a dent in my savings... I don't disagree there is a time and a place to save, but this is NOT the area to do it. If you pop a motor in a new ISF you best believe that Lexus is going to be sending engineers to examine the vehicle, and will surly find the filter which you installed. Forensic investigations is what I specialize in and have found more than one vehicle whom has had catastrophic failures due to incorrect parts being installed. However, I wish you luck, I will stick with the correct filter for our vehicle.
but the color is different which leads me to believe the composition of the filter element itself is slightly different
Speaking of oir filters... I was at Walmart this morning and found that they list an oil filter for the IS-F. Part number is FRAM CH10295 at $6.44. I opened the box and it looks the same as the OEM filter. Any one ready to give it a try?
Keep needlessly spending your money on the little stuff. I'll save mine for PS2s where it makes a huge difference.
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Both the filters are pretty much the same, from the factory it will come with the japan filter (darker) but when you get service done at the dealer they use the A4, There is nothing wrong with the A4 and it will not void your warranty. The A4 is also used on the 5.7l Tundra.
This post is worthless without pics!!!
I'd say problems are measurably unlikely. Blackstone specifically commented on the oil filter's exceptional ability to remove contaminants.
Keep needlessly spending your money on the little stuff. I'll save mine for PS2s where it makes a huge difference.
Keep needlessly spending your money on the little stuff. I'll save mine for PS2s where it makes a huge difference.
Thankfully for my "F's" sake I will. The extra $89.80 spent over the period of 100,000 miles will hardly put a dent in my budget. However, I hope that an Arbitration board would see things in the same light for you in the event that you have a catastrophic engine failure during your warranty period. From my past experiences in such events, I feel that your likelihood of success in such an event is next to immeasurable.
If you have catastrophic engine failure, even if you have used a third party filter, and you can prove the oil was changed based on lexus's schedule or better, they could not deny you a claim. And again, the filter specified by Lexus for my wife's ES is a Thai filter with the associated number sequence. Lou