Exactly my point - My whole frustration so far has been justification as to why people love it, hate it, why some features are there and why some aren't. All I am trying to ascertain without 100% clarity is whether or not, there is a hidden menu in which a dealership can modify with techstream. I am sure someone knows. ONCE I KNOW, then I can decide if I want to go ahead with it or not but at least I'll be going in knowing for sure what I am getting myself into. There are so many people that buy stuff without knowing what they are getting and then complain about this or that. I am sorry for being the type that makes a purchase with knowing all the facts rather than jumping blindly and then have remorse because I didn't know that I couldn't disable that feature (not directing this at you, just speaking in general)

BUDDY!!! What a great surprise to hear from you!! I know you love me, I mean how could you not?!? (lol) If you read my above paragraph, you will see that I am not saying I will pass on it, but I want to go in knowing EXACTLY what to expect. If my steering column will behave like a sex toy every time I start and stop my car, then so be it but at least I'll be going in knowing what to expect. I LOVE LOVE LOVE this car!! I was not expecting to even like it, let alone fall in love with it. That being said, when you struggle with OCD, that could be one of those thing that could just set me off. We all have our quirks and god knows I have mine and wish I wasn't this way, or be bigger or have a condition where I needed this feature but I don't and right now, I am just trying to find out 100% if I can or can't be deactivated. I mean Lexus allows us to have the folding mirrors deactivated, the retracting seats deactivated, and so on. I am not disputing the value or non value of the feature, I just wanna know so I can make an informed decision.....Even if I have to pull a darn fuse! (lol)

 

^^^ Deep down inside, I think you will love this feature (sex toy) .

 

^^ Now you know me TOO WELL (LOL) - First time I laughed in 2 days!

 

Anyone know if or when we can order parts from the UE? I want those floor mats lol. I wonder if they will let us purchase them.

 

UPDATE: to ALL that could be curious, the auto retract feature for the steering column CAN and HAS been disabled via the tech and techstream
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We can finally lay this discussion to rest!!!

 

Great! Now let’s discuss the wheels. I think they are bad and you won’t love them, so you can rest easy knowing I will buy them from you. 😆

 

^^ Give me at least 24h to get my anxiety down before spiking it again! (sheesh - LOL)

 

Does the UE come with Potenzas or PS4s?

I swung by my local dealership today and asked what it would cost to trade in my 5k miles 2024 USB for a 2025 UE.
According to their odd math it's $18k taxes included… but based on the appraisal it should be around $15k with taxes. That's still a lot. The trade in value is not as great as I was expecting, I think they were lowballing me a bit.

Not really a fan of the red interior accents, but I do love alcantara/suede. Not sure about the new paint. Just trying to figure out if this swap is actually worth it. I'm torn right now, it might just be FOMO.

wthrman2, I blame you for this lol. Btw, you posted some pictures of the UE recently, but can't seem to find them?!

 

They come with the Bridgestone S001L (but oddly enough, the spare tire is a ps4s)

 

mhh500 - The pics are on Page 34 of this thread. I can't recall, are you in the US or in Canada? Trade in values will vary alot not just based on age and condition of your car but also the market you live in. If you live in a bigger city and/or somewhere in which the weather is nice pretty year round, then you will likely get a better offer because they know they will not hold this car on their lot as long. In my case, smaller market, almost before winter in Canada, the dealer factored that there is a possibility mine might not sell until the spring.

Best advice I can give you is go in with a price that you are willing to accept for your trade and see if they can match it...If not, then you can decide whether it's worth going ahead or not. In my case, the original offer was lower than what I was hoping, I counter offered and they took it. For me, cars are a passion and I am not taking my money when I am gone so I wanted this car so I am taking it (came close to walk away because of my OCD but that crisis has been averted). Don't compare what one is getting versus another, that game will drive you insane. I got what I wanted and that is all that matters and if others get better than what you got, don't lose sleep over it as long as you are happy with the purchase. That is always my motto in life.

With respect to teh red, I found the red to be less bright than the circuit red on my current IS 500 despite also being called circuit red. I am not sure if they changed the hue a bit or the fact there is more black, it blends in a bit better and I feel looks more like the Rioja red (not exactly, but more in that shade of red). With the exterior paint, it will change based on the lighting - In the showroom, it looked differently than outside in the bright sun. I liked it the most outside where the metallic was more visible. This car is a stunner and pics don't do it justice, I almost didn't go see it because the pics were leaving me lukewarm and didn't want to drive 4h only to be disappointed but I am glad I went.

If you have more questions, feel free to PM me or call - Good luck with your decision

 

Yeah, I wish they would have offered all seasons for the Canadian market as it does limit the car in the shoulder seasons - I will get the Michel Pilot Sport (all season) after 2 or 3 summers as I hate throwing out perfectly new tires.

 

Thanks, both of you! Really appreciate it.

wthrman2, I'm in the US, the great state of TN (haha). I don't see much snow here, if any.
They were going by the KBB value and didn't budge much when I asked, maybe $1k more for the trade in, but that's about it.

 

Agreed. Had they offered an all-season OEM tire, then you could at least keep that on for the shoulder/winter season and put on proper high-performance tires for the summer. But now with these crappy bridgestones (which even my dealer admitted were bad tires compared to the competition), you are stuck with not only crappy performance tires for summer, but tires that can't extend too deep into the shoulder seasons. I put on the Michelin PS4S (summer tire) back in the spring , but now I have dilemma for the winter . For this winter at least, I put the crappy bridgestones back on just to drive the car a few times in the winter when temps are above freezing and roads are dry, but that is a bullcrap solution. I will be forced next winter to buy a proper set of winter tires (or all season tire) to carry me through the shoulder/winter season while preserving the true performance tires for the summer.

 

^^
I'm in the same boat. My current 18" winter setup mostly won't fit on the UE so I'll probably end up putting winter tires on the OEM wheels and keep my summer setup, assuming they will fit, which I hope!

 

Folks, you can always go to your local America's Tire store (or Canadian equivalent) and they will prorate your newish stock tires for whatever other new tires you decide to get. I did this a few years ago and got a pretty hefty credit/discount on the new tires.