https://www.motor1.com/news/566181/l...sedan-concept/

 

Excellent! An IS EV would be something to consider. Save the planet!!

 

Ironically since 2014, they never brought the IS 300 Hybrid to the USA / Largest Market..

Joe Z

 

Probably cause the the IS300h uses the old generation hybrid system isn't that efficient. Toyota has tweaked the current A25AFXS to be RWD for certain models so that's definitely possible for a future 4IS model, assuming they just don't go full electric instead. I'll bet one reason Toyota is delaying such a 4IS model cause they want to see where the market goes before pouring money into development of another ICE rig. Co-designing a platform for both ICE and BEV isn't optimal nor ideal. They'll have to make some decisions in the coming years as will everyone else. Just a guess...

 

This had me puzzled as well. With the CT getting axed a few years back I was sorta expecting the IS300h to be introduced here when the "3.5IS" was coming out. And I came across a video review sometime ago of a LHD 2021, so I know they're out there.

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Even if we didn't get the IS300h F Sport, I think the base/luxury model would've done pretty well here.

And yes, I know the UX hybrid could be considered a replacement for the CT. Still, I was somewhat hopeful (maybe foolishly so) about the IS300h as an alternative for those of us who don't fancy the ES.

Really? Considering the IS is usually a 3700+lbs vehicle, I think 50+mpg is really decent for the platform. I could be remembering incorrectly, but those are the numbers I've typically seen reported on the IS300h. Even if it's really getting 40+mpg, that doesn't seem bad at all considering the vehicle's weight class.

 

Keep in mind, 50 UK MPG is about 41 US MPG. So yeah, most likely it's getting low 40s in the real world in the US. It's good, but not impressive given the low power level of the car.

 

Good point. I might've been thinking about the Corolla hybrid or something when I typed 50+mpg. And while it isn't a phenomenal number by any means, mpg in the low 40s still seems reasonable to me for a 3700+lb vehicle. Especially one potentially using "older/outdated hybrid tech". The ES weighs about the same and averages 44mpg.

I suppose it's ultimately the market we're in. Most consumers here see the ES as the larger and roomier vehicle, and would probably still gravitate towards the ES300h vs the option of an IS300h. I'd be one of the minority shoppers who would pick the IS. The ES just doesn't do it for me.

 

Give me an IS 350h (I guess the naming works?) with 250-ish horsepower and we might have a decently fun to drive car!

I think we seriously might see one in the next gen. Probably using either a turbo four cylinder or the newer hybrid setup from the NX adapted for longitudinal drivetrain use. This seems feasible given the turbo four cylinder from the NX was rotated and dropped into the IS 200t for the 2016 MY. I just hope it doesn't retain the e-CVT.

 

Lexus please give us this https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/22/toyo...ed-engine.html

 

^ I'm all for options. EVs don't necessarily make sense for everybody's lifestyle, so it's good to know other carbon neutral power sources are still being explored.

My main concerns with hydrogen powered vehicles right now are the fuel tanks and lack of fueling stations. Take the Toyota Mirai for example. It has 3 huge tanks, and this is why the Mirai has such awkward proportions. Yes, the car currently has roughly 400 miles of range, but that seems to be achieved in part by sacrificing power. It only makes about 182hp. I wonder how designers and engineers can give a 450hp V8 hydrogen vehicle a more traditional shape, while not giving up reasonable range.

 

Take my money, and give me that EV IS!

 

I've had it with CA gas taxes and price gouging at the pump everytime someone sneezes. My next car will be an EV and I'd want to stick with the Lexus brand. The electric IS has to happen.

 

EV? No thanks, they have no soul. As a grocery getter (with Costco just a mile down the street), maybe. But for a road trip, I want something that lets me enjoy the journey.

 

just a thought, in a decade, the gas price may probably be ridiculous high, the charging speed of EVs is less than a minute. If that's true, EV is a better choice for a roadtrip, and ICE cars will be our grocery toy. just a thought...

 

Lithium ion batteries would overheat and explode at that charge rate and Toyota has been struggling to scale up their super capacitor tech which could technically pull that off [not sure what the temperatures are on those as I haven't found too much info on it]. I am not sure why people write off hydrogen engines since lithium ion and probably even super capacitors won't meet the requirements of the transport industry...they will go to hydrogen which would allow it to trickle down to cars at a lower cost as stations get built out to make it viable for cars unless some radical breakthrough comes out which is highly unlikely.