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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 10:45 AM
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The first two you mentioned are just oil leaks any brand can have. The rod bearing i'll give you, but that's for the M3 and M5 (S85 and S65).Those are older engines.

The engines being put in the new supra above do not have rod bearing issues.
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
Toyota believes in German technology
Toyota believes in saving money where it can (especially a co-development on a sports car that's not going to make them any money).
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 12:33 PM
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It'll make them money. The point is to have a halo sports car and bring some excitement to the brand.

Toyota's chief engineer said he was impressed by BMW engineering. Give credit where credit is due instead of pumping your fists screaming Toyota Lexus! When Toyota is more open minded than you are, then you know you are being biased.

I'm a fan of it all! I don't pump my fist in anger of "the other side" on the auto spectrum. Keep an open mind to great engineers everywhere!
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 12:35 PM
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Same goes for the other side. If they think Lexus is inferior cause (whatever reason) i remind them of reality. I've owned it all so I can speak of it all =) i've been on all the sides! I hate when people get fanboy about a brand and get all "gang mentality" on "the other brand"

can't stand that! =)
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 01:14 PM
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^ Nah both engines are lifted straight from BMW and dropped in the Supra. No question, no debate.
I think people will start trying to order before release if they just bring the 2JZs back and put them in the new Supra lol
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
I re

posted this a few months ago here. anyway R&T got a hold of a Toyota internal document some time ago. It's been circulated.

Those codes circled are internal BMW codes for the respective engines
What the heck?? There are still Supras in production??
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
It'll make them money. The point is to have a halo sports car and bring some excitement to the brand.

Toyota's chief engineer said he was impressed by BMW engineering. Give credit where credit is due instead of pumping your fists screaming Toyota Lexus! When Toyota is more open minded than you are, then you know you are being biased.

I'm a fan of it all! I don't pump my fist in anger of "the other side" on the auto spectrum. Keep an open mind to great engineers everywhere!
No pumping of fists here, but if you think that the decision to co-develop with BMW was because of their engine technology you are nuts. Not saying that Toyota engines are so much better, but they took an opportunity to use a good engine so they didn't have to spend the money to do so on a super low volume car. I used to work in New Model Development for Toyota so I've seen first hand how decisions are made.
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Hey guys, I just traded in my 2016 IS200t and got a new IS300 base and have noticed that this new car feels much quicker and more responsive. I did a quick search and couldn’t find anything on this, but does anyone know if for these newer models Lexus Made and engine tweaks or modifications to the transmission? It seems as if this car is actually ready to go when I hit the pedal whereas the 2016 was always missing some pep in its step...
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What year is your IS300? My 2018 IS300 is the V6 model, so it has 260 HP, but I feel the lag when I step on the gas pedal. I don't usually floor it.
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 01:40 PM
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What year is your IS300? My 2018 IS300 is the V6 model, so it has 260 HP, but I feel the lag when I step on the gas pedal. I don't usually floor it.
His is a 2019 RWD 300 (so it's the turbo 4 cyl engine). Your NA AWD 300 should not have any lag at all (not all that quick but still no lag). Do you use premium fuel?
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Originally Posted by E46CT
The first two you mentioned are just oil leaks any brand can have. The rod bearing i'll give you, but that's for the M3 and M5 (S85 and S65).Those are older engines.

The engines being put in the new supra above do not have rod bearing issues.
too new to show issues yet, BMW too years to even say their was an issue before.
The MKV is just living off the name according to the specs I see, it should be called a Mr2 instead. I'll gladly say I'm wrong and have a MKV in my garage if proven otherwise but I'll keep the MKIV supra flame alive instead.
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 02:16 PM
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supra chief engineer also said to buy the 4cyl version to swap in a 2jzgte if you want power so there you go.
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Burrcold
Toyota believes in saving money where it can (especially a co-development on a sports car that's not going to make them any money).
All manufacture co-develop things, super cEs are known to drive in parts bins to save cost.
the issue is the MKV does not live up to the MKIV name badge that was left behind. The GTR proves that there is a 100k market for that type of car.
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyN
All manufacture co-develop things, super cEs are known to drive in parts bins to save cost.
the issue is the MKV does not live up to the MKIV name badge that was left behind. The GTR proves that there is a 100k market for that type of car.
It is very true that all manufacturers co-develop, however Toyota has a history of doing it on low volume vehicles. If they truly thought that they could/should have developed a true successor to the Supra nameplate, they would have done it on their own. They need to make a business case for every vehicle, and unfortunately bean counters have a say in development as well.
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lychee416
What year is your IS300? My 2018 IS300 is the V6 model, so it has 260 HP, but I feel the lag when I step on the gas pedal. I don't usually floor it.
There's some delay in the throttle-by-wire control. Try using Sport mode and see if that helps. If it's still too laggy you could consider getting the Apexi throttle controller.

Also bear in mind the car responds quicker if you floor it versus just using your big toe.
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Old Dec 17, 2018 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Burrcold
It is very true that all manufacturers co-develop, however Toyota has a history of doing it on low volume vehicles. If they truly thought that they could/should have developed a true successor to the Supra nameplate, they would have done it on their own. They need to make a business case for every vehicle, and unfortunately bean counters have a say in development as well.
I agree, i have a mkiv supra for over a decade, I hate what they are doing to the name, I hope I am wrong
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