I don't know why the 2017s are so slow. The 14-16 have recorded anywhere between 5.3-5.6 which is probably faster than the A-Spec. I also hear the 17 has suspension revisions. Neither car is fast though so we're just arguing who is less slow . I think for a little more, the Audi S4 is a much better car.

 

it's odd to sit back and think about how 5.x seconds from 0 to 60 is considered slow.

 

Haha. True but the class leaders are in the 4.2 second range now. 5.6 seconds for 350 is slooooooooow.

 

You're still comparing the IS the TLX because of weight> lets compare a lx470 and a f250 super duty because they weight the same even though they're different. If you cant afford the gs350 awd f sport, save save save

 

I never understood this thought. How can you condemn someone for comparing the two cars if they were deciding between the two? If one wanted an IS they cannot cross-shop a TLX because it’s a different class? Lol The cars are more similar than they are different (save for longitudinal vs transverse layouts). Car segments are so blurred blurred now, especially due to models such as the TLX, Q50, etc which can compete in both segments.

 

When I'm comparing cars i tend to look at vehicles that are within the same class. The Q50, TLX, ES, GS etc are considered mid-size cars whereas Lexus names the IS350 a compact car. Either way, it's IS vs TLX, I'm glad i could help differentiate the two

 

i think you are comparing 2 completely different cars. i don't consider acura a luxury brand what so ever, i don't even think they upgrade their materials from a loaded honda tbh... i think your best bet is to go with the IS350, the interior is way better and luxury looking than the acura, and honestly is 5.6 seconds that terrible to 60? when are you going to ever use all 306 horsepower anyways, not very often. i have the IS300 and that even gets off the line fast enough for everyday commutes and keeping up with other cars or passing and such. i think the TLX should be crossed off your list and the other considerations would be a 340i (my choice), an S4, or an AMG C43 for true power and performance, at least until lexus upgrades the IS350's engine

 

I test drove the TLX SHAWD and the IS300AWD yesterday. Here are my thoughts about the TLX:
The Bad
- Even though Acura changed the grille the TLX, I still can't stand it. It still looks out of place with no flow.
- The interior of the TLX is decent but boring. The lower screen looks like some cheap ATM matte screen. When the sun is shining through the cabin, I can barely see anything on it.
- The ASpec logo on the steering is under some plastic that attracts fingerprints and dust.

The Good
- Super comfortable seats. Very good support and felt like I was sitting on my big leather office chair
- Tons of cabin and trunk space.
- The car ride was super smooth, quiet and soaked up bumps. Handling was amazing, the car felt super planted and the AWD made the car felt like it was turning on rails.
- V6 plenty of power and smooth. Don't get caught on comparing HP or 0-60s with other car brands. In the real world, it literally makes no difference. I rather have a smooth power delivery engine than a engine with Turbo lag that does .2 second faster.
- Transmission upshift was alright, but downshift felt slow on a couple of occasions.

I think I will be going for the IS300 in the end. Both cars have controversial exteriors but the interior of the IS is what sold me. Enough horsepower in both cars for a daily driver and the AWD on the IS is enough to do its job in the snow. Also, coming from an 2IS, I've done enough research on both engines and Lexus cars to be comfortable owning another one.

 

why are you citing 5.6? C&D recorded rolling start 5 - 60mph @ 6.4 sec

whatever you say grandpa

 

Who quotes 5-60? As useless a stat 0-60 is, at least everyone standardizes around it. 5-60 is used by like 1 mag

 

lol, pretty sure jmull3r is one of the youngest members here...

I also have the 300, and as a comparatively grandpa-ish person, I find the get-up-and-go to be ample.

+1, no one uses this. 5.6 is pretty good anyway.

The latest C&D review seemed slow in terms of both the 0-60 (6.0 s) and the rolling start times. The IS 300 can manage 6.1 on a good day, and in my own testing (maybe just 5 or so attempts), I got 6.2. So, I feel C&D must have had a bad launch day or something.

 

I got the Is350 F sport for its balance, not speed. I have to drive an ASpec as the person said it's far better than IS. I'm skeptical as the IS has class leading handling along with the ATS. I find that AWD cars have more grip but the balance and nimble feeling is lost. Steering feel is far more important to me than grip with a ton of understeer.

If I wanted speed, I would have just gotten the 335 with dead steering feel and rattles and all

 

I actually preferred the IS's steering over the BMW's. Sure, it's a tad numb, but it's not completely light and fake either.

In addition, AWD doesn't mean the car has more grip, per se. However, it will certainly have more traction, which allows you to rocket out of a turn much earlier/harder than in a RWD car.

I'm also curious about the A-Spec as well, but man... I don't care for the looks of it.

 

I completely agree with you on the steering. The IS350 is pretty good...way better than BMW. The car's build quality is much higher. So quiet and no rattles after 35k hard miles. My friends 335 rattles like crazy. Crap build quality. I find Hondas to rattle like crazy too with questionable build quality. It's reliable though but the design is nothing to write home about. I have a 2013 Odyssey touring as a frame of reference.

 

okay grandma 😁