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Inverted manual shift knob (+/-) : Does it annoy you?

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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 10:33 AM
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Default Inverted manual shift **** (+/-) : Does it annoy you?

I drove many cars with semi-manual or sequential (or tiptronic, whatevery they call it, etc.) transmissions and the IS genuinely annoys me as + is on top and - is down! Recently drove the '14 Corolla and it was the same. Is this something only Toyota does, or is it more widespread than I think? Doesn't it annoy anyone?!
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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Not really, it's just a matter of getting used to it. BTW, Porsche does the same thing with their PDK, so I can pretend that I am driving a Porsche
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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Yeah I gotta give it to BMW they got it right in that department,

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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 01:05 PM
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Hopefully someone can figure out a way to program it to do the opposite.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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Its just like driving in initial D! lol
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 02:09 PM
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TOMS had a kit for the 2IS that reversed this, im sure they will do the same for the 3IS.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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id rather use paddles
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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Many characteristics of this model are not intuitive; Seek / Tune steering wheel button included. :|
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Aeromotive
I drove many cars with semi-manual or sequential (or tiptronic, whatevery they call it, etc.) transmissions and the IS genuinely annoys me as + is on top and - is down! Recently drove the '14 Corolla and it was the same. Is this something only Toyota does, or is it more widespread than I think? Doesn't it annoy anyone?!
I don;t know what you drove before but only very few manufacture has that backwards +backwards - forward.. mazda, bmw(after 2000) and porsche.. might be some others but MB, Audi, VW, Infinity, Lexus, Volvo has this right
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 02:50 PM
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To answer the OP:

Does it annoy me? Yes.

Is it a "make it or break it" decision for me in terms of choosing the IS350 over its competition? No.

As KumaF mentioned, as much as I'd rather have it the other way around (to follow the natural g-force of your body & the car), it's just a matter of "getting used it."

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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 03:23 PM
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Does it ever occur to anyone that different than what we were used to might just be better? 😃
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 03:24 PM
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Yeah, BMW definitely nailed it. It's not a deal-breaker for me. I just wanted to know if I was the only one in this world who was annoyed by it... never heard/saw anyone (or even any reviewer) mentioning it!
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 03:56 PM
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Just did some research on the TOM's GT shifter. It is a great little mod which most people can do in their garage. And it is just a signal-reversing relay, so I don't see anything could go wrong with it as long as all the wires are properly connected. I would definitely consider it when a 3IS version comes out, given that I came from a BMW (muscle memory is just so persistent...). Now I just have to find a way to switch the '+' and '-' signs without using those stickers....Maybe TOM's should also release a new gear position display panel?
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Up should be up, down should be down. What's the confusion? German cars got theirs backwards.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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Does not annoy me at all.

In fact I feel this is the intuitive way it should be. Moving forward and accelerating = pressing the shifter forward = upshift in gears = higher gears = higher speed. The reverse is true. Makes sense no matter which which angle you look at it.
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