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Inverted manual shift knob (+/-) : Does it annoy you?

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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Acura does it exactly like Lexus. AND Lexus gives you both paddles and shifter -- Acura, Genesis, and others only give you or the other.
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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Pull backwards to go faster? Seems counter intuitive to me. Good news is conditioning can be overcome by less complaining and more driving.
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 09:36 PM
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When I had my 07 acura tl we had the same problem what we did was disconnect the wire and swap it around and I'm guessing it should be the same
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 12:32 AM
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My BMW had the down for up and up for down. TBH doesn't make a huge difference to me since I resort to the paddles anyway haha
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Arioch
Good news is conditioning can be overcome by less complaining and more driving.
Complaining? Really?
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 07:37 AM
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VW is the same as Lexus, at least in the Touareg (forward to upshift, back to downshift).

My MINI was the opposite, but I always used the paddle shifters in that car. Here's my theory on BMW/MINI's shift thinking. The MINI's (and I think early BMW) paddle shifters were set up that you pull back with your fingers to upshift and push forward with your thumb to downshift (with either hand, both sides worked the same). So, they just transferred the push/pull philosophy down to the console.

The learning curve for me now in the Lexus is the right paddle to upshift and left paddle to downshift, very different from the MINI. Takes a little more thinking when shifting through a corner.

Am I complaining, nope, I'm learning.
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 06:29 PM
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Interesting.

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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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After watching those videos. I wonder if it is necessary to lift off throttle when shifting in manual mode ?
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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LOL @ panyo. You nailed it. I wanted to compile a few videos but you beat me to it. The momentum and g-force thing makes perfect sense. I still wonder why so many manufacturers insist on inverting it.
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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If this is a standard from racing cars and was imported in the street cars why all the majority of manufactures did it the opposite.
Why Mercedes use changing up by pulling and down by pushing on the race cars but the other way around on the regular street cars?!
Dilemmas dilemmas
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Interesting.

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Interesting.

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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 11:05 PM
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Great post Panyo. I feel the same way - came from a BMW, and the orientation just felt second nature to me on day 1. On the 3IS, I still haven't gotten used it yet and just use the paddle shifters now. I like to downshift a lot to kick in engine braking (partly to save my pads from kicking up so much break dust).
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 05:13 AM
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why does it even matter when the paddles (which are the correct configuration) are much better to use?
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 06:16 AM
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^^ Because not everyone thinks the way you do
For example I've been driving only manual cars since I got my license (13 years ago) and I feel like the shift kn0b is the closest I can get to a manual, in a luxury car. So I enjoy using it.
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