flektone

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Does anyone know if Lexus fully converted to the low dust pads or are there two different part numbers for front brake pads? I supposedly had the OEM low dust pads installed with aftermarket rotors by my mechanic and the brake dust is horrendous. Im trying to figure out who screwed up here. Thanks

Jeff Lange

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What year is your car? 2006-2008 USA models all had the high-friction (high-dust) pads. 2009-2013 Lexus switched to the low-dust pads for USA models (Canada continued using the high-friction pads).

Do you have the part number for the pads that were installed? That's the best way to know which you have/got. Both types of pads are still available and still used on new cars from the factory.

Jeff

flektone

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Its a 2007. I called Lexus parts to confirm the part number my mechanic gave to me 04465-53040 and specifically asked the guy if these were the low dust pads. But after looking at the TSB it looks like its 53030. Does that seem right? So there are two different part numbers for pads. I don't understand what they just didn't covert the old part number to the new one with low dust one they released the TSB. Now I have **** pads on my car and I'm calling back the parts guy to bust his *****.

Jeff Lange

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Some people want the high friction pads. I ordered them from Lexus and they sent me the low dust pads instead. I returned them and had them send me the high friction pads.

There is more to the issue than just the amount of dust. I prefer the brake feel of the high friction pads, I've also found them to have a higher tolerance to brake fade as well.

Jeff

darkdream

I do too, but the TSB was a free brake pad job so I am living with the lower dust pads.

flektone

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But dont your wheels look like hell after 3 days of driving? Anyway I called corporate to complain. Even though a Lexus dealer did not installed them I think they might install the low dust pads for free. Im waiting on a call back.

Bichon

If you asked a Lexus dealer to install the low dust pads, and they installed the high friction ones by mistake, I would agree that they should make it right at no cost to you. But it sounds from you description that your independent mechanic made the mistake by ordering the wrong pads. How was this Lexus' fault? Why wouldn't you insist that your mechanic obtain and install the pads you requested?

flektone

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No. I called Lexus parts to confirm the part number and specifically asked if the number given to me was the low dust. I then told my mechanic to order them. The idiot did not look further into providing me the part number I asked for. On top of that in my line of work when there is a manufacturer defect and a TSB with a part number change. From that point on only the updated part number is available and used. You dont continue to use and install parts that have a known issue.

Bichon

You are misrepresenting the contents of the TSIB. There wasn't a manufacturing defect, nor did the low-dust pads replace the high friction ones. Here is the description, right from TSIB BR002-06 :

Sounds like the guy in the parts department who gave you the wrong number is at fault.

Jeff Lange

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That statement from the start of the TSB really does say it all. They were not released to fix a problem, they were released as an alternate part for people who found the high dust objectionable. Yes, my wheels get dirty every few days, yes I am okay with that.

Jeff

flektone

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Hey Lexus can spin it and write up any mumbo jumbo they want. Manufacturers have been making brake pads for 30 years. The dust on these is clearly excessive after 3 days of driving. Im very **** and particular about my car. Thats why at almost 10 years old it looks new.

Jeff Lange

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Sounds like you are the person they were talking about then, it also sounds like you did your best to try and make sure you got the low dust pads but didn't. It was either the mechanic's fault (if he didn't ask for the right pads) or the dealership employees fault (if he didn't give the mechanic what he asked for). If you are looking for some assistance they will be who you need to talk to.

With regards to the pad material itself, it's Textar's T4146 and it is used in many European cars (mainly by BMW), but there are a few Lexus models that use it (the LS460, GS350 and ISx50). They stopped coming with it by default in the ISx50 for USA models only after 2008, however other counties continued to use the Textar pads. When the 3IS came out, they switched to using the T4146 only in the F-Sport models and the rest get the lower dust "regular" Lexus pads. Lexus never replaced the high friction pads with the low dust version, they just offered them as an alternate option for people like you who don't care for the dust.

Any higher performance brake pad will almost always have a higher dust level. It's just the way it goes.

Like I say, your best bet would be to speak to the people involved, they're the ones who will be able to help you.

Jeff

Lex Law

My local Lexus service dept. replaced my high friction pads with low dust pads at no charge when my car was new and I presented the TSB. It really bugged me how skanky the wheels were looking right after cleaning, and I worried that I'd have to wash my car every few days! I had to use the manual hose to spray them before going through the touchless car wash. The low friction pads made all the difference. I don't brake hard while driving so their performance is fine for me. In parking lots it's easy to tell which cars have high friction pads.