Notices
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013) Discussion about the 2006+ model IS models

60k service no spark plug change?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 07:26 PM
  #16  
ABC's Avatar
ABC
Racer
CL Folding 100,000
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,727
Likes: 8
From: USA
Default

Originally Posted by sktn77a
Spark plug change interval was 120,000 miles through 2007. Starting in the 2008 model year it was changed to 60,000 miles. I believe this was a EPA technicality that we all end up paying through the nose for.
Do you have documentation that shows it was 120k miles? I am at 90k and have not change dmy plugs. Was going to do it soon, but after talking to a few mechanics, i may wait until 120k. Car runs fine, so i have no issues putting it off and deferring the cost
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 07:56 PM
  #17  
smokyis350's Avatar
smokyis350
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,970
Likes: 0
From: california
Default

Originally Posted by Gville350
If you can turn a wrench, you can install the spark plugs in a 350. If you don't have the right tools, then purchase them with the $$$ you would have spent on labor somewhere else and you get to keep them forever! Remove the coil packs with what I believe to a 10mm bolt holding them down, pop the coil pack out, remove the spark plug, and install new plug (should be pre-gapped too!), and reinstall the coil pack. Do one cylinder at a time so you don't miss something. '

Honestly a 30 mintue job with the right tools.
30 minute is definitely pushing it. The concept of changing the spark plug is easy but the tight space makes the job 10x worst. I was having constant trouble getting room to loosen the plugs on the driver's side.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 07:56 PM
  #18  
Jeff Lange's Avatar
Jeff Lange
Keeping it Real
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,219
Likes: 752
From: Texas
Default

There are different types of iridium spark plugs, they are definitely not all the same.

0.7mm electrode ultra long-life Denso plugs (which many Toyota/Lexus models do use) are rated for 120K miles, while others like the 0.4mm electrode iridium power plugs are only rated for 30K miles (source). The iridium plugs in the 2IS engines are the Denso "high ignitability" FK20HBR11, with a 0.55mm electrode (source). The combustion conditions can also affect how long a plug will last, in the case of Lexus D4/D4-S engines that use the FK20HBR11 Denso plugs, they are all rated for 60K mile service intervals (source), including 2006-2007 models (source: 2006 Lexus IS250/350 NCF book, Lexus Pub. No. NM0140U, page EG-37 & EG-130, first printing: July 25, 2005).

Excerpt from MY2006 NCF, Page EG-37:
60k service no spark plug change?-7zxtse8.jpg

Jeff

Last edited by Jeff Lange; Mar 25, 2014 at 08:04 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 11:17 AM
  #19  
Cgmiller63's Avatar
Cgmiller63
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
From: Ca
Default

Originally Posted by FSportIS
For safety reason and not having a stalled car, you better change the spark plugs at 60k miles interval. Luckily in Southern CA, I can buy the plugs from Sewell and then let Tommy@MusicBox change it for only $80 which is way cheaper than the dealership which charge the hundreds if not thousands.
Not to hijack the post but I'm in So Cal and would be very interested in hearing more about Tommy@MusicBox's services.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 01:01 PM
  #20  
dstun's Avatar
dstun
Rookie
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: VA
Default

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
There are different types of iridium spark plugs, they are definitely not all the same.

0.7mm electrode ultra long-life Denso plugs (which many Toyota/Lexus models do use) are rated for 120K miles, while others like the 0.4mm electrode iridium power plugs are only rated for 30K miles (source). The iridium plugs in the 2IS engines are the Denso "high ignitability" FK20HBR11, with a 0.55mm electrode (source). The combustion conditions can also affect how long a plug will last, in the case of Lexus D4/D4-S engines that use the FK20HBR11 Denso plugs, they are all rated for 60K mile service intervals (source), including 2006-2007 models (source: 2006 Lexus IS250/350 NCF book, Lexus Pub. No. NM0140U, page EG-37 & EG-130, first printing: July 25, 2005).

Excerpt from MY2006 NCF, Page EG-37:


Jeff


Great info - thanks.

I think we all agree, yes you need to change your spark plugs but if you go past 60K and arent experiencing any issues, chances are you will be fine.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 01:34 PM
  #21  
pheonix72's Avatar
pheonix72
Lead Lap
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 654
Likes: 7
From: ca
Default

Originally Posted by smokyis350
30 minute is definitely pushing it. The concept of changing the spark plug is easy but the tight space makes the job 10x worst. I was having constant trouble getting room to loosen the plugs on the driver's side.
Yes, 30 minutes is a bit too fast! Took me about 45min to an hour; but I was taking my time and enjoyed 2 cold Heineken during the process
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 02:13 PM
  #22  
FSportIS's Avatar
FSportIS
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,191
Likes: 6
From: CA
Default

There is a whole topic about Tommy@MusicBox on Southern CA section where I learned about him. On my car, he has installed F Sport intake, exhaust, springs, shocks, paint calipers, HID kits, JL Audio amplifier and subwoofer etc... Everything is fine and running strong after 2 years, I'm still looking for him for any accessories install. Fast and simple plus very reasonable price.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-...er-thread.html

Originally Posted by Cgmiller63
Not to hijack the post but I'm in So Cal and would be very interested in hearing more about Tommy@MusicBox's services.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 02:51 PM
  #23  
Cgmiller63's Avatar
Cgmiller63
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
From: Ca
Default

Thanks for the info. I'll look for him
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 12:12 AM
  #24  
P128sniper's Avatar
P128sniper
Thread Starter
Pole Position
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 389
Likes: 3
From: Il
Default

Slightly off topic but you guys think the 60k miles maintaince will help a little with my mpg, and also I just put my summer tires on switched from winters. I bought the car saturday. So avrg mpg shows 14.7 and seems to be pretty accurate because on the first half of the tank I drove 125 miles and it's looking similar so far on the other half tank, still got over a quarter left. It's been about 75 city and 25 Highway so far and Yea i just bought it but wasn't going crazy, I did step on it maybe 3-4 times for a few seconds.Well see next tank I don't mind 18-22 mpg but 14 is kinda low..
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 05:38 AM
  #25  
sktn77a's Avatar
sktn77a
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 408
From: Chapel Hill, NC
Default

Originally Posted by istarzan
I'm in NC and about to hit 60k. $1000, you gotta be kidding. I'm pretty sure you can perform most of the maintenance yourself and save.
We're talking dealership price comparisons. Of course you can DIY but that was not the question.
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 05:43 AM
  #26  
sktn77a's Avatar
sktn77a
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 408
From: Chapel Hill, NC
Default

Originally Posted by MrMut
Do you have documentation that shows it was 120k miles? I am at 90k and have not change dmy plugs. Was going to do it soon, but after talking to a few mechanics, i may wait until 120k. Car runs fine, so i have no issues putting it off and deferring the cost
A previous poster states that the 2007 IS350 plug change interval is 60k. I was referring to the IS250 and LS460. I don't have the IS350 service booklet so this one may be different. What does your Manufacturers service booklet for your 350 say?
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 06:33 AM
  #27  
dstun's Avatar
dstun
Rookie
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: VA
Default

Originally Posted by P128sniper
Slightly off topic but you guys think the 60k miles maintaince will help a little with my mpg, and also I just put my summer tires on switched from winters. I bought the car saturday. So avrg mpg shows 14.7 and seems to be pretty accurate because on the first half of the tank I drove 125 miles and it's looking similar so far on the other half tank, still got over a quarter left. It's been about 75 city and 25 Highway so far and Yea i just bought it but wasn't going crazy, I did step on it maybe 3-4 times for a few seconds.Well see next tank I don't mind 18-22 mpg but 14 is kinda low..
Something to consider, here on the East Coast and Midwest, the oil companies have a "winter blend" for fuel that will decrease your MPG slightly.
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 08:14 AM
  #28  
NYKnick101's Avatar
NYKnick101
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,449
Likes: 5
From: NY
Default

495 for fluids and filters is absurd! Plus should be changed but still for 500 thats crazy
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 09:07 AM
  #29  
P128sniper's Avatar
P128sniper
Thread Starter
Pole Position
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 389
Likes: 3
From: Il
Default

I want to order the 60k miles kit from sewell parts website, can anyone tell me if it's official, what I mean are the filters and spark plugs that come withtthe kit oem high quality parts?
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 09:48 AM
  #30  
FSportIS's Avatar
FSportIS
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,191
Likes: 6
From: CA
Default

If you buy it from Sewell, they are OEM quality parts because Sewell is a Lexus dealership located in Texas. www.sewellparts.com They are also a Clublexus vendor. I have ordered tons of OEM stuffs from them including maintenance oil, filter, F Sport sway bar and so on.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gs350fan
GS - 3rd Gen (2006-2011)
23
Nov 28, 2024 03:42 AM
frhill
GS - 4th Gen (2013-2020)
26
Feb 1, 2022 05:33 AM
DRivera250
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
26
Nov 2, 2016 10:51 PM
Haitwun
Maintenance
3
Jun 15, 2011 11:20 AM
heinrich
Performance
5
Nov 11, 2007 01:19 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:43 AM.