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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Does anyone have access to an engine schematic for a IS250AWD?
In particular the bottom end.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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What's an engine schematic? What do you want to see?
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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The lower portion of the engine. How does the oil pan work in this car?
What part of the engine is the lower pan bolting to?
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Does this help?

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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Does this help?

Yes! . So basically this bolts between the pan and the block. Is that correct?
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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That is the oil pan, and yes it bolts up to the bottom of the engine block.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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....CF oilpan? i kid i kid
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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....CF oilpan? i kid i kid
I wish. How about I ran over a rock, it kicked up, and just caught the corner of the steel oil pan, put a real small hole in the corner of the pan, and about a 1" chunk of aluminum that it bolts to broke off. So I basically need that piece...
Does anyone know how hard it is to put this thing on an AWD or how much it cost?
This sucks!
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I wish. How about I ran over a rock, it kicked up, and just caught the corner of the steel oil pan, put a real small hole in the corner of the pan, and about a 1" chunk of aluminum that it bolts to broke off. So I basically need that piece...
Does anyone know how hard it is to put this thing on an AWD or how much it cost?
This sucks!
This is why you have insurance. Changing the upper pan in the car is no small feat. More than likely the engine needs to come out to make the repair. file a claim and get it fixed professionally.
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This is why you have insurance. Changing the upper pan in the car is no small feat. More than likely the engine needs to come out to make the repair. file a claim and get it fixed professionally.
I did today. I was wondering if I could get to it from under the car without having to pull the engine.
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Thanks lobuxracer for the quick info.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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I'm looking at the diagram and I'm still thinking I can do it myself...The part is only like $160...and the way it's shaped makes me think it will slide out once unbolted.
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...OK change of plans...I just talked to a guy that works on these things he said the book time shows 21 hrs. and he thinks the engine needs to come out...F that! He said it's a big job. Now my question is what does a dealer get an hour ?
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I'm looking at the diagram and I'm still thinking I can do it myself...The part is only like $160...and the way it's shaped makes me think it will slide out once unbolted.
Just splitting it off the block is a BIG challenge. You normally have to drive a special wedge tool into the joint to get it to separate.

I know what you mean about it appearing to be possible. I thought the same thing with my Supra when the rear of the upper pan was leaking. I ended up putting a support bar across the shock towers, raising the engine up with the support bar off the front subframe, then I still had to lower the subframe as far as I could without completely removing it just to get the upper pan out.

I'm not at all surprised the dealer quoted 21 hours and pulling the engine to get it done. I guarantee if you do it the same way I did mine, you'll be kicking yourself at the end of the job for not pulling the engine. Just my experience.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Big *****
...OK change of plans...I just talked to a guy that works on these things he said the book time shows 21 hrs. and he thinks the engine needs to come out...F that! He said it's a big job. Now my question is what does a dealer get an hour ?
$110/hr at my local dealership... at 21 hours you're for sure going to want to let your insurance handle this.
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