2007 IS350 vs 2007 G35
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From: Los AngePittsInaFranciTonionativille
Not quite. A not insignificant number of manufacturers these days are pushing rev limits higher, because they seem to have magically discovered that high rpm torque doesn't typically drop off as quickly as revs gain, so they can claim higher peak horsepower, which is all most people ever see. In reality, most of the fast drivers here would rather see a dead flat torque curve, which tends to be a little bit more forgiving with the gear changes and faster in all but the most talented of hands. Personally, I'd rather have the flatter torque curve than the higher rev limit, since one can be reprogrammed in the ECM and the other can't.
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Lets just put it this way, I had a G35S on order at 2 different dealerships (both didn't go through b/c they thought they could get the car and they both ended up not being available.) I didn't consider the IS 350 b/c I thought it was out of my price range. I decided to call up some dealerships anyway to see if I could get a good deal, and I happen to find a dealer by me who had what I wanted in stock, and I was able to bargin for a good price. I still paid more than I would have for a G35S, but the extra cost was well worth it. I don't regret getting a G35 in the least.
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From: Charlotte
I think he just misread your original message thinking that you were saying the G35 burned oil when in fact you were saying that the IS was burning the oil.
Fact is, ALL cars are going to have bad apples. The question is how often do those bad apples occur - and it is proven statistically that Nissan / Infiniti has more problems (big and little) than Toyota / Lexus. So, while I understand your friend's frustration with his problems on his IS, just because he jumps over to BMW (who has a TERRIBLE track record) or Infiniti doesn't mean something won't happen there too. Plus, if it was just this one problem and now it is fixed and there have been NO other problems, I think that's pretty good. I used to have a BMW and had tons of problems. But, our Lexus has had none (only had it one year, though). you've got to look at overall reliability in these things. Not just one person's bad experience.
Fact is, ALL cars are going to have bad apples. The question is how often do those bad apples occur - and it is proven statistically that Nissan / Infiniti has more problems (big and little) than Toyota / Lexus. So, while I understand your friend's frustration with his problems on his IS, just because he jumps over to BMW (who has a TERRIBLE track record) or Infiniti doesn't mean something won't happen there too. Plus, if it was just this one problem and now it is fixed and there have been NO other problems, I think that's pretty good. I used to have a BMW and had tons of problems. But, our Lexus has had none (only had it one year, though). you've got to look at overall reliability in these things. Not just one person's bad experience.
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Not quite. A not insignificant number of manufacturers these days are pushing rev limits higher, because they seem to have magically discovered that high rpm torque doesn't typically drop off as quickly as revs gain, so they can claim higher peak horsepower, which is all most people ever see. In reality, most of the fast drivers here would rather see a dead flat torque curve, which tends to be a little bit more forgiving with the gear changes and faster in all but the most talented of hands. Personally, I'd rather have the flatter torque curve than the higher rev limit, since one can be reprogrammed in the ECM and the other can't.
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I got a headache trying to read that. Anyway, how could infiniti copy lexus, if all they did was update their current G35 that was on the market since like 2003, back when lexus had the is300? It still looks very close to the first gen.
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The '07's aren't having any issues with that. The whole engine in brand new, with something like 80% new parts, and I'm sure the oil consumption was part of the reason for the redesign. They must be confident in it, since they pushed the redline even higher.
Some of the earlier G/350Z cars had a problem with their 300hp rev-up motors, the ones that revved till 7000, it seemed that the oil was somehow getting past the piston rings at higher engine speeds and was burned.
Some of the earlier G/350Z cars had a problem with their 300hp rev-up motors, the ones that revved till 7000, it seemed that the oil was somehow getting past the piston rings at higher engine speeds and was burned.
Not quite on the same scale but my '03 sedan (purchased in 5/02) and my '04 coupe had the creaky, rocking seat issue. 4 years later, '06 G owners (as well as M35/45) are still complaining about it. (Again, probably to early to tell for the '07's.)
Either:
1. Infiniti doesn't know how to build solid seat rails, or
2. They just don't care enough to do anything about it
You would think that after 4 years they could come up with something...... Hopefully, history doesn't repeat itself and those suffering with the oil consumption issue will have some light at the end of the tunnel.
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Lexus is one of the best cars at holding its value. I had a 35 and when i went to trade it in for a new lexus resale value was not good by any means( it was less than 5 months old fully loaded). Turning raduis on a 35 is horrible, I cant tell you how many 3 point turns I had to do, with the lexus not a problem making tight turns. Just my 2 cents....
what i find funny is how many of the current IS350 owners actually tested all the other cars in the class, before going on and on about how crappy the G35 is. Judging the car on how it looks like is purely based on preference. I personally think the TL looks the best in the class even better then the IS. You then have to add up all the pros and cons about the two cars, and truthfully i think they are both fairly evenly matched depedning on what is more important to you. have you considered the other cars in the class? like the BMW 335i, Audi A4 3.2 quattro,acura TL type-s, MBZ c350???? i've driven all of them except for the benz................
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I was just throwin' in my two cents in my post on the first page there. But honestly, I absolutely love my IS. And like so many other people in here, OF COURSE I am biased, thats why I bought it. haha. also, sorry that I didn't know the m/t wasn't available on the IS350. I never looked at the 350, If i did buy that, I don't even wanna know what my lead foot would of done to it already.
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From: Coral Springs, Fl
After 5 months the Lex would fare no better. Both cars have oustanding long term resale value.
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After 5 months, the Lex would fare no better. Both cars have oustanding long term resale value.
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From: NC
I love the "Japanese wine" of the IS350, TL-Type S, ect along w/the quite exhaust, but that's just me.
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From: NC
Not trying to start an argument, but it would be nice if we could dispense w/the politically correct answers and continue on w/the debate w/out fear of having those opinions suppressed by a moderator.
If I’ve misunderstood your intentions then I apologize.