I notice that no matter how hard I try I cant stop driving like im on a track in my 250. I guess the switch from SUV's has been a big one for me. Anyone else get this sense of power? I guess all those years being cut off and denied lane changes while driving my SUV's are coming back.

 

im with ya on this one..i just cant help but speed in my 250..swangin all over the place lol

 

How come I have a feeling that you drive more like an idiot on crack than like driving on a track...

 

A well-placed speeding ticket with a possible careless or reckless attached to it will modify your behaviour very quickly.

Or, what happened to me, I was doing at least 30 over and I popped over this hill and this motorcycle was parked in the corner, the rider was standing and he assumed the position. I slammed on the brakes and prepared for a burst of laser or radar and I never got it. Made me think it was laser and my V1 has flaked out on me.

Turns out just a regular guy at the parked taking a break. Scared me so bad makes me think twice about my agressive driving habits.

 

My last car was a 2000 Camaro and I drove that like I stole it. I've noticed that I've actually calmed down quite a bit switching to this car. Don't get me wrong, I'll still get on it from time to time, but I am driving this car a lot easler than my old one.

 

i can only imagine how'd you drive if you had 306 hp

 

I use to be an aggressive driver but I must say that I do not have that problem with my IS350. I don't know if it's because I've grown out of that phase or if its that I don't want to drive my >$40k car like I stole it. Probably a combination of the two. Sure, I have the occassional bursts of speed and even the occassional stop light to stop light sprint but for the most part I do not have a problem maintaining a 65-70mph speed on the freeway and not using the #1 (aka: "fast") lane. You also never know when you're going to **** off the wrong person on the road.

 

i put my car in pwr ect mode every day to stunt on the streets, i just cant help it.
the car is begging to be driven hard

 

I drive fast but not aggressive. If current traffic conditions are safe to speed above the speed limit, I will speed as safe as it is for me to do so.

My rules of the road are:

#1. Safety of others on the road.
#2. Safety of myself and occupants/passengers.

For example, if the speed limit is 60 MPH, you're going 60 MPH and I can't pass you on the left, I'm not going to tailgate you, flash my lights or do anything. I'll keep a safe and proper distance between you and I until it's safe for me to pass.

Another example, if I'm WAY above the speed limit and I'm about to pass traffic, I always make sure there's an "escape route" if the other vehicle does not notice me and does a lane-change into my lane.

etc.

I've been accident free for over 12 years following these rules.

Cheers,
Kermee

 

I agree. But the one thing that bothers me is most people on the road consider speeding as aggressive driving. You really can't convince anyone that you are being safe or being polite if you are way above the speed limit. I think I'm a safe driver, but others on the road probably don't see it that way even if I don't have to weave in and out or brake suddenly or make crazy moves. Wide open 65mph highway, if you do 90, that's way too aggressive and offensive. You can tell by the looks on some people faces this is what they are thinking.

 

I couldn't agree more. My wife constantly tells me I am driving recklessly if I go over 75. Even if on the interstate and no other cars in sight. I guess it's much better to drive 65 fumbling around with your cell phone, make up case and looking at houses on the side of the road. I'm like Kermee, I always have my eyes on the road, and always have a back up plan for the "unepected" to the extent that I can account for it.

 

I agree too. I think we all were teenagers once. There is a big difference between driving agressively and driving fast. Sometimes the only way to drive fast is to be agressive by cutting off people and generally causing havoc on the road. I don't think that's worth it. In traffic you won't get there much faster and just tire yourself out.

Then again I feel more comfortable at 100mph in the Lexus than in my 4Runner at 70mph. The 4Runner is lifted on 33" tires with a long travel suspension that missing several factory parts including a sway bar. Sometimes you just want to get somewhere fast and that involves passing people but it doesn't have to be rude.

Have you ever noticed that everyone driving faster than you is a maniac and everyone driving slower is an idiot?

 

You took the words right out of my mouth!

 

Great George Carlin quote..

This car is easily lost at higher speed. Youll be crusing at 65 and before you know it your doing 95. One thing Ive noticed is that the car is so silky sometimes that passengers don't know Im doing higher speeds, so I dont get chided for driving wrecklessly. Speeding too too fast is never safe, but doing 90 mph on a completly empty highway isnt going to hurt anyone. Weaving in and out of traffic at 90...yes you are indeed a maniac

 

Speed and aggressive driving are mutually exclusive. Public perception may say otherwise but that is my .02. This is my first post in CL (brand new to CL and Lexus). Probably not the best way to introduce yourself to a group (ahh, who cares). As a safe driving instructor we have a rule "not too fast OR too slow for conditions." We train professional drivers for a large corporation. We also have a rule "never exceed the posted speed limit unless the conditions warrant."

The variables that go with each of the rules are(just a few):

1. You must be intimately familiar with your equipment (no jokes please).
2. You must be familiar with the road, road surface. (information must be current)
3. You must know the dynamic physical limitations of your vehicle and how they relate to the specific road surface you are utilizing for transit.
4. You must possess proper seeing skills (ability to look into your future).

Conditions are generally defined as road surface, road design, weather, traffic, and cargo(what, who, why, where, class). The actual definition is more detailed.

Your average person on the highway speeding is doing so with very little forethought. It is usually impulsive. The primary concern usually involves not being observed by law enforcement. The secondary concern is usually ensuring that two or more objects do not attempt to occupy the same space at the same time (your Lexus being one of the objects). This is known as a collision. Some of you may argue that this is even lower on the priority list for many drivers.

All of this to say, too fast or too slow is very subjective. The by the book answer is any speed over what is safe for the current conditions is too fast(or too slow if applicable). Also, any speed above the posted speed limit is reckless if you were to get very technical. Average drivers who speed generally don't bother me at all. I use my training and knowledge to ensure that I am not involved in any of their mistakes if they make any.

The IS is a well designed vehicle with enough electronic watchdogs to keep your average driver out of trouble. However, risk of serious personal injury or property damage increases with each mph/kph over zero that you travel. So just bear in mind if you do speed, remember to look well into your future to ensure that you don't attempt to occupy the same space at the same time with another object(s). Deceleration kills you. Force trauma caused by your speed kills them.

Edited to add: I'm not holier than thou. I have exceeded the speed limit on a public road in the past, and I will most likely exceed the posted speed limit in the future.

Regardless the IS350/250 handles higher speeds very well.