Power Meter
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Out of curiosity, if you (or anyone else) are using some diagnostic tool, which sort of RPM does the ICE reach, when you keep the accelerator pressed for 30 seconds with the shift lever in D?
I use the Torque app with a bluetooth OBD interface when I perform the ISC.
It shows nicely the coolant temperature, and also the RPM, but for some reason it doesn't give a reliable engine load.
According to the procedure, the load is supposed to be 45% or more during those 30 seconds, but not having a reliable way to measure it, I just keep the accelerator at roughly 70%, which as I understand should be ok.
But the RPM only goes up to 2000 or so, if that - hence my initial question.....
I use the Torque app with a bluetooth OBD interface when I perform the ISC.
It shows nicely the coolant temperature, and also the RPM, but for some reason it doesn't give a reliable engine load.
According to the procedure, the load is supposed to be 45% or more during those 30 seconds, but not having a reliable way to measure it, I just keep the accelerator at roughly 70%, which as I understand should be ok.
But the RPM only goes up to 2000 or so, if that - hence my initial question.....
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From: IT
Do you mean that you actually tried it, and it gives consistent engine load numbers?
I'm asking because also the Torque app does show the engine load, but the numbers I get are obviously wrong (sometimes it shows an engine load while the ICE isn't working at all), therefore I guessed that the OBD code for engine load is used in a somewhat different way in the 400h.
For instance to show the total load (electric motors+ICE), rather than the ICE load alone, though I'm not sure about that.
Anyhow, I thought that since on Torque the engine load is meaningless, also any other generic apps or tools (like the ScanGauge) would have been equally unreliable....
I'm asking because also the Torque app does show the engine load, but the numbers I get are obviously wrong (sometimes it shows an engine load while the ICE isn't working at all), therefore I guessed that the OBD code for engine load is used in a somewhat different way in the 400h.
For instance to show the total load (electric motors+ICE), rather than the ICE load alone, though I'm not sure about that.
Anyhow, I thought that since on Torque the engine load is meaningless, also any other generic apps or tools (like the ScanGauge) would have been equally unreliable....
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Thanks in advance, I might well buy one for this reason alone...
Another couple of questions, if you don't mind:
1) when I attach the bluetooth OBD interface, it stays on also after turning off the car and removing the key, so I don't leave it connected at all time to avoid draining the battery.
Does the scangauge have the same problem, or it has some way of turning off itself when the car is not being used?
2) where did you place the scangauge display?
Thanks again!
Another couple of questions, if you don't mind:
1) when I attach the bluetooth OBD interface, it stays on also after turning off the car and removing the key, so I don't leave it connected at all time to avoid draining the battery.
Does the scangauge have the same problem, or it has some way of turning off itself when the car is not being used?
2) where did you place the scangauge display?
Thanks again!
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Thanks in advance, I might well buy one for this reason alone...
Another couple of questions, if you don't mind:
1) when I attach the bluetooth OBD interface, it stays on also after turning off the car and removing the key, so I don't leave it connected at all time to avoid draining the battery.
Does the scangauge have the same problem, or it has some way of turning off itself when the car is not being used?
2) where did you place the scangauge display?
Thanks again!
Another couple of questions, if you don't mind:
1) when I attach the bluetooth OBD interface, it stays on also after turning off the car and removing the key, so I don't leave it connected at all time to avoid draining the battery.
Does the scangauge have the same problem, or it has some way of turning off itself when the car is not being used?
2) where did you place the scangauge display?
Thanks again!
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From: IT
Good to know.
BTW, today I played with Torque app a bit, and aside from confirming that the load number doesn't seem reliable, I noticed that it doesn't show any oil temperature.
I mean, neither engine oil, nor transmission oil, only the coolant - which is handy for performing the ISC, at least...
Can you see any oil temp with ScanGauge on your RX?
BTW, today I played with Torque app a bit, and aside from confirming that the load number doesn't seem reliable, I noticed that it doesn't show any oil temperature.
I mean, neither engine oil, nor transmission oil, only the coolant - which is handy for performing the ISC, at least...
Can you see any oil temp with ScanGauge on your RX?
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Good to know.
BTW, today I played with Torque app a bit, and aside from confirming that the load number doesn't seem reliable, I noticed that it doesn't show any oil temperature.
I mean, neither engine oil, nor transmission oil, only the coolant - which is handy for performing the ISC, at least...
Can you see any oil temp with ScanGauge on your RX?
BTW, today I played with Torque app a bit, and aside from confirming that the load number doesn't seem reliable, I noticed that it doesn't show any oil temperature.
I mean, neither engine oil, nor transmission oil, only the coolant - which is handy for performing the ISC, at least...
Can you see any oil temp with ScanGauge on your RX?
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That's a shame, I can't believe that they didn't care to keep that monitored somehow.
It must be in some sort of proprietary, non-standard code.
As I understand, the ScanGauge can also be programmed to read any code which goes through the OBD, maybe it's just a matter of knowing which code is used for oil temp...
Though by "just" I'm not saying it's easy to find out, of course!
It must be in some sort of proprietary, non-standard code.
As I understand, the ScanGauge can also be programmed to read any code which goes through the OBD, maybe it's just a matter of knowing which code is used for oil temp...
Though by "just" I'm not saying it's easy to find out, of course!
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I used to have the ScanGauge in a Prius and I added some gauges per their instructions. More of these worked on the Prius, but I listed all the gauges that work on the 400h. Looks like they finally added oil temp on the Scion FRS/Subaru BRZ.
http://www.scangauge.com/support/x-g...yota-specific/
http://www.scangauge.com/support/x-g...yota-specific/
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