Notices
Hybrid Technology Unique topics related to the 2010 - 2015 RX450H model hybrid drivetrain and other features/options found only on the RX450H. Please use the main forum for discussion about shared components with other third generation RX models.

450h 12V Battery Died

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 13, 2024 | 02:39 PM
  #1  
chrshea's Avatar
chrshea
Thread Starter
10th Gear
 
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 14
Likes: 3
From: Ontario
Smile 450h 12V Battery Died

The last couple of weeks I had some cases where my 2010 450h wouldn't start on the first try. Yesterday, when I tried to start it, it wouldn't do it. After a number of tries there was no more power and everything went dark. I then realized that the 12v battery was probably the cause. I'm pretty sure that it's the original Panasonic battery so 13+ years is very good.

The problem with no power was that I couldn't open the rear hatch. Apparently, there is a release (didn't know that at the time). I was able to work from inside to get at the battery. I wasn't able to remove the rear bolt holding the battery down but I was able to twist the retaining bar enough that I was able to get the old one out and the new one in.

I've read some stuff on the internet claiming a very reasonable Lexus price for a replacement battery. I called the local dealer and it would have come to about $600 (CAD) with tax. It wasn't easy to find a proper replacement but NAPA had one that was almost identical in size (and guaranteed to fit the 450h!). It doesn't require a vent. Their price was about $230 (CAD).

Put the new one in this morning and everything is working fine. Need to reset the radio and probably bluetooth but overall, a very successful end.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2024 | 06:50 AM
  #2  
Finalist0946's Avatar
Finalist0946
Pit Crew
 
Joined: Oct 2023
Posts: 105
Likes: 9
From: NC
Default

Whats the make and model of the replacement battery?

Originally Posted by chrshea
The last couple of weeks I had some cases where my 2010 450h wouldn't start on the first try. Yesterday, when I tried to start it, it wouldn't do it. After a number of tries there was no more power and everything went dark. I then realized that the 12v battery was probably the cause. I'm pretty sure that it's the original Panasonic battery so 13+ years is very good.

The problem with no power was that I couldn't open the rear hatch. Apparently, there is a release (didn't know that at the time). I was able to work from inside to get at the battery. I wasn't able to remove the rear bolt holding the battery down but I was able to twist the retaining bar enough that I was able to get the old one out and the new one in.

I've read some stuff on the internet claiming a very reasonable Lexus price for a replacement battery. I called the local dealer and it would have come to about $600 (CAD) with tax. It wasn't easy to find a proper replacement but NAPA had one that was almost identical in size (and guaranteed to fit the 450h!). It doesn't require a vent. Their price was about $230 (CAD).

Put the new one in this morning and everything is working fine. Need to reset the radio and probably bluetooth but overall, a very successful end.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2024 | 07:26 AM
  #3  
takeshi74's Avatar
takeshi74
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 582
Likes: 36
From: TX
Default

Originally Posted by chrshea
It doesn't require a vent.
That sounds suspect. What type of battery is it?
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2024 | 05:08 PM
  #4  
Clutchless's Avatar
Clutchless
CL Community Team
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,146
Likes: 1,710
From: VA
Default

See this sticky thread that is the first one on the page for this vehicle!
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/hyb...rx450h-19.html

It must be only available in Canada and it has to be an AGM battery as they do not need vents. I checked US NAPA and Batteries Plus and neither had a battery for a 2010 Lexus RX450h.
Auto Zone did not have a battery.

A check of a couple of US Lexus OEM parts places appeared to indicate that the battery was no longer available.
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2024 | 07:53 AM
  #5  
Droid13's Avatar
Droid13
Pole Position
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,128
Likes: 947
From: Toronto, ON
Default

Originally Posted by chrshea
The problem with no power was that I couldn't open the rear hatch. Apparently, there is a release (didn't know that at the time). I was able to work from inside to get at the battery. I wasn't able to remove the rear bolt holding the battery down but I was able to twist the retaining bar enough that I was able to get the old one out and the new one in.
Just FYI, there is a 12V boost/charge point under the hood too, no need to crawl into the back.
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2024 | 07:52 AM
  #6  
Finalist0946's Avatar
Finalist0946
Pit Crew
 
Joined: Oct 2023
Posts: 105
Likes: 9
From: NC
Default

Where is that located?

Originally Posted by Droid13
Just FYI, there is a 12V boost/charge point under the hood too, no need to crawl into the back.
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2024 | 02:00 PM
  #7  
zmel's Avatar
zmel
Rookie
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 32
Likes: 12
From: OR
Default

Originally Posted by Finalist0946
Where is that located?
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2024 | 04:02 PM
  #8  
Finalist0946's Avatar
Finalist0946
Pit Crew
 
Joined: Oct 2023
Posts: 105
Likes: 9
From: NC
Default

Two follow up questions. 1) Can't you simply manually open the trunk lid even if the battery is dead?[ The video suggests you cannot, and 2) I have a battery jump starter I bought just in case. Can I jump start from that front engine fuse box connector or does it have to be connected directly to the battery in the rear?

Amazon.com: BUTURE Car Battery Jump Starter 2500A Jump Box (8.5L Gas/8.0L Diesel), Portable Car Starter Battery Pack with Extended Smart Jumper Cables, Quick Charge, Large Display, Lights : Automotive Amazon.com: BUTURE Car Battery Jump Starter 2500A Jump Box (8.5L Gas/8.0L Diesel), Portable Car Starter Battery Pack with Extended Smart Jumper Cables, Quick Charge, Large Display, Lights : Automotive


er QUOTE=zmel;11652013]
[/QUOTE]
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2024 | 05:39 PM
  #9  
salimshah's Avatar
salimshah
CL Community Team
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 16,531
Likes: 1,379
From: Austin, TX
Default

First statement is partially correct. In order to pop the hatch you need 12v or slightly lower as the hatch release is battery operated. You can crawl over the back seat and do the trick to pop the rear hatch or try to roll back the carpet etc.

Second requires the understanding that the 450H does not have high current demand from the 12v battery [installed or jumped]. There are terminal posts in the engine compartment which are small in size [standard size jump cables are too fat to get in there]. If you turn off the headlamps [take it out of auto] you can energize the electronics with a much smaller 12v source.

Salim

Last edited by salimshah; Jan 17, 2024 at 09:29 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2024 | 05:47 PM
  #10  
Finalist0946's Avatar
Finalist0946
Pit Crew
 
Joined: Oct 2023
Posts: 105
Likes: 9
From: NC
Default

OK but I think your only referring to charging the electronics right? I'm talking about starting the engine. Or are we talking the same thing?
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2024 | 09:27 PM
  #11  
salimshah's Avatar
salimshah
CL Community Team
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 16,531
Likes: 1,379
From: Austin, TX
Default

Originally Posted by Finalist0946
OK but I think your only referring to charging the electronics right? I'm talking about starting the engine. Or are we talking the same thing?
12v battery in 450H does not spin the starter. 12v starter is in the non-hybrid engine. The hybrid ICE is started by the high voltage battery which spins the wheels also spins the engine. CCA ratings on the battery are not put to use in hybrid RX.

Salim
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2024 | 02:01 PM
  #12  
chrshea's Avatar
chrshea
Thread Starter
10th Gear
 
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 14
Likes: 3
From: Ontario
Default NAPA Battery

This is the battery that I used:

NAPA 12V Battery
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2024 | 10:28 AM
  #13  
ThreeCW's Avatar
ThreeCW
Rookie
 
Joined: Jun 2022
Posts: 36
Likes: 7
From: Alberta
Default

In your first post you mentioned that your new battery "doesn't require a vent". The photo of the "maintenance free" battery you posted is a type of "sealed battery" ... but it is still a liquid filled, lead acid battery. Your photo shows two vents - one on each side of the top cap.

Sealed lead acid batteries are not truly sealed. If the battery were to overheat, say due to excessive charging, gases could build up and cause the unit to explode. As such they have pressure valves which allow gases to vent at a certain point.

You will want to make sure that the two vents on your battery have been vented out of the passenger compartment, similar to what your OEM battery was. If the two vents are in communication with each other, you can plug one vent and vent from the other. If they are not in communication, each vent should be separately vented.

Last edited by ThreeCW; Jan 19, 2024 at 10:36 AM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
GudSht350
GS - 4th Gen (2013-2020)
18
Oct 23, 2025 02:42 PM
chrshea
Hybrid Technology
10
Feb 12, 2022 11:31 PM
davidb5859
RX - 3rd Gen (2010-2015)
6
Sep 15, 2020 05:39 AM
MediumRare
RX - 4th Gen (2016-2022)
15
May 11, 2020 07:38 AM
Kielbasa
ES - 1st to 6th Gen (1990-2018)
4
Jan 16, 2019 10:27 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:36 PM.