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Huh - I wonder if the seats quality is not the same in the Prem+ vs the Overland+
This screen grab from The Tophers vid below shows seats in Overland+ that are way more robust than the Prem+ I was in - maybe the demo GX that the dealer had was a preproduction? If preproduction that would explain how cheap the interior felt to me. If not, then I would for sure shy away from the Prem models.
I looked at several videos and it appears that you are onto something. The Premium and Premium + have the pouch integrated into the seat cover whereas the OT+ and Luxury/Luxury+ have the holder mounted to a hard plastic backing. I couldn’t readily confirm which the base OT has.
To this point, I was assuming identical interiors between the models besides NuLuxe vs Leather.
Good point on the differences in the seat backs between the trims. That Premium I checked out had the integrated pouch and it actually did feel kind of flimsy and cheap. It was pretty stretched out for being a brand new vehicle. Much prefer the hard plastic seat backs in this case.
Good point on the differences in the seat backs between the trims. That Premium I checked out had the integrated pouch and it actually did feel kind of flimsy and cheap. It was pretty stretched out for being a brand new vehicle. Much prefer the hard plastic seat backs in this case.
Okay so maybe it wasn't a preproduction - too bad. Before I had thought that the Prem Plus was the way to go, but now I think maybe the big price jump to Lux is not really about the leather but maybe bc overall higher quality fit/finish? Maybe the headliner is nicer in the Lux as well?
Eh, lets be honest. Its not like there are not quite a few oil leaks on the 1UR FE - both valley and timing cover leaks. Yeah, it is pretty robust, but maintenance is often more than oil, plugs, and brake pads.
Sure - I am not pushing for turbos. But, I have noticed that my GX has had a bit more issues with the engine than I would have expected. I just had to have the timing chain cover leak done - if not under the extension to the CPO warranty I bought, that would have been at least $4k with the leaking water pump. This was at about 105k miles. If a turbo replacement is about the same cost, then maybe it isn't so much more expensive to maintain. As long as the builds don't have lurking catastrophic failures - like some of the BMW or Landrover engines of the past - then maybe future won't be too bad. At least there is not timing belt that needs to get done for $1k or else engine destroys itself.
05-15-24, 04:51 PM
