Auto Start, engine stops when door opens
If I start the car remotely, is there a way to keep the car running when I get in? Each time I open the door the engine cuts off whether I unlock with the remote or the door button. The fob is in my pocket the entire time, so I Am not sure if there is a setting I need to change, or some other thing I need to do to keep the car running.
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... real scenario in Seattle as reported by the local news ... Range Rover ... mom fastening toddler in passenger back seat (key fob in purse) ... perp jumps into the driver's seat, starts the vehicle and drives off with her child ... then realizes there is a kid in the back seat ... which constitutes kidnapping ... so the perp grabs the child (fastened in seat) and dumps off into traffic ... then drives off ...
Maybe "design-by-committee" technology needs to take a step back and incorporate all scenarios ... or maybe back off on thinking they are smarter than all potential scenarios ...
Sometimes simple is the better thing ...
Maybe "design-by-committee" technology needs to take a step back and incorporate all scenarios ... or maybe back off on thinking they are smarter than all potential scenarios ...
Sometimes simple is the better thing ...
Last edited by ASE; Mar 11, 2024 at 08:07 AM.
If I start the car remotely, is there a way to keep the car running when I get in? Each time I open the door the engine cuts off whether I unlock with the remote or the door button. The fob is in my pocket the entire time, so I Am not sure if there is a setting I need to change, or some other thing I need to do to keep the car running.
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There are at least 10 states where unattended idling of a car is illegal unless there are sufficient theft prevention measures in place (see puffer laws). Check your local and state laws. Lexus is required to meet the laws for any state they sell in, so the auto shutoff is required by law.
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No offense, but that makes no sense. Toyota runs the motor fine when the vehicle is unattended during a remote start, but shuts it off when the driver's door is opened. I've not driven everything, but of the vehicles with remote start that I have driven, Toyota is the only one to do this.
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No offense, but that makes no sense. Toyota runs the motor fine when the vehicle is unattended during a remote start, but shuts it off when the driver's door is opened. I've not driven everything, but of the vehicles with remote start that I have driven, Toyota is the only one to do this.
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Leaving your car running idle unattended is referred to as ‘puffing’ — referencing the puffs of fumes coming from the car exhaust in the cold — and it is banned in Colorado. If you are caught leaving your car idling unattended, you could be fined $60 in Colorado. Colorado is not alone in this practice. Puffing is illegal in 30 other states, including Texas. It is also banned in many other countries, like Germany and Switzerland, to name a few, where similar fines are applied for offenders. The fine in Washington DC can be up to $5,000.
Toyota's auto shutoff when the door opens is an acceptable (according to CO law) means of allowing for unattended vehicle running. I can't speak for other manufacturers
The part about shutting off the motor adding anything to the process, and the part about Lexus having to comply with the law. All OEM remote start systems require the car to be locked to before being remotely started, and have an interlock to prevent the car from being put into gear without the key present. Killing the motor when the door is opened adds nothing to the process and is not required to be compliant with CO law. Interestingly, all OEM remote start systems do allow one to break CO law, as it only allows five minutes of idling, and even Toyota-based systems will idle for ten. (That part of the law has political/religious motivation, and is not related to theft.) Fortunately, I'm not forced to live in a part of CO where anyone cares, so it's mostly a source of amusement to me.
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maybe killing the motor is easier than multiple versions of controller SW, as in other countries can have differing regulations.
there are workarounds for the door but it is much more work than benefit.
much more work than benefit to explain
more work than benefit to implement
there are workarounds for the door but it is much more work than benefit.
much more work than benefit to explain
more work than benefit to implement
I agree with you that it’s annoying as just bought our 2023 and didn’t expect it. We rented both a 2022 Ford Expedition Max and a 2022 GMC Yukon, neither behaved this way. You remote started them both, then when you entered the vehicle, the engine was running, however we had to press the start button to turn everything on. It was more of a half start to me. That was my first experience with a remote start and was a little disappointed to see the GX did not work this way.
Tech Features ... I do not understand why this is even a point of discussion ... the GX is THE MOST RELIABLE vehicle on the planet earth ... drive for 250,000 ++ miles without (non-tech) issues and be happy. It is a transportation device ... not a tech-feature ridden device. These posts are the exact reason automakers are adding (pre-mature) tech complexity that only results in frustration ... so live with the consequence ...
Toyota ... Hybrid ... they are ruling now in the market, since the EV thing is not ready for prime time. That's why Toyota waits until technology is actually proven ... rock solid ... until they integrate ... something that is reflected in their quality and long-term reliability standings.
Toyota ... Hybrid ... they are ruling now in the market, since the EV thing is not ready for prime time. That's why Toyota waits until technology is actually proven ... rock solid ... until they integrate ... something that is reflected in their quality and long-term reliability standings.
Last edited by ASE; Mar 13, 2024 at 07:20 AM.







