Auto Start, engine stops when door opens
Driver
Joined: Nov 2023
Posts: 69
Likes: 58
From: MN
I admit that it is annoying on the other hand can't help but think how hard is it to put your foot on the brake and hit a button to start it up again, really? Beats digging a key out of your pants pocket under a heavy jacket when it is in the twenties or thirties below zero. On the other hand it would be nice to not have to reach all the way up to the dash and hit that start button....
Yes it is a Toyota thing. Had a Compustar remote start on my keyed 2013 Tacoma for years, worked great. So when I got the GX looked into a Compustar remote start for it. One of the first things I found was a KB article by Compustar Push to Start Vehicle Shuts Off as Soon as I Open the Door. At the bottom of the KB:
A more accurate statement would be that 30 States have Cities in them that have idling laws, of course it is the Cities. Very few States have State wide idling laws. And they have exceptions to that law even in Wa. State if the vehicle is on private property such as a driveway it is exempt from the idling law.
And for Colorado
The only major exception to the law is if vehicle owners have a remote starter as long as the keyless fob for the car is far enough away that the car can't be moved. In that case, they can be used, but vehicles can’t sit idle for more than five minutes. There’s an exception if it’s been less than 20 degrees for 24 straight hours or if the current temperature is below 10 degrees
Here in the coldest State in CONUS with 6 weeks of **** poor sledding at 20 degrees I may or may not start to think about putting a coat on LOL. The Twin Cities do have an idling law I believe. But in the rest of the State we stay out of other peoples business as a rule.
There is no Secure Takeover for your vehicle.
For select vehicles, such as certain (not all) Toyota and Lexus models, there is no Secure Takeover procedure available for those vehicles. Thus, 100% of the time that a vehicle is remote started, the engine will shut off as soon as a door is opened. This is to ensure the complete safety of your vehicle.What part doesn't make sense? The fact there are states that have puffer laws that do not allow unattended cars to be running:
Leaving your car running idle unattended is referred to as ‘puffing’ — referencing the puffs of fumes coming from the car exhaust in the cold — and it is banned in Colorado. If you are caught leaving your car idling unattended, you could be fined $60 in Colorado. Colorado is not alone in this practice. Puffing is illegal in 30 other states, including Texas. It is also banned in many other countries, like Germany and Switzerland, to name a few, where similar fines are applied for offenders. The fine in Washington DC can be up to $5,000.
Toyota's auto shutoff when the door opens is an acceptable (according to CO law) means of allowing for unattended vehicle running. I can't speak for other manufacturers
Leaving your car running idle unattended is referred to as ‘puffing’ — referencing the puffs of fumes coming from the car exhaust in the cold — and it is banned in Colorado. If you are caught leaving your car idling unattended, you could be fined $60 in Colorado. Colorado is not alone in this practice. Puffing is illegal in 30 other states, including Texas. It is also banned in many other countries, like Germany and Switzerland, to name a few, where similar fines are applied for offenders. The fine in Washington DC can be up to $5,000.
Toyota's auto shutoff when the door opens is an acceptable (according to CO law) means of allowing for unattended vehicle running. I can't speak for other manufacturers
And for Colorado
The only major exception to the law is if vehicle owners have a remote starter as long as the keyless fob for the car is far enough away that the car can't be moved. In that case, they can be used, but vehicles can’t sit idle for more than five minutes. There’s an exception if it’s been less than 20 degrees for 24 straight hours or if the current temperature is below 10 degrees
Here in the coldest State in CONUS with 6 weeks of **** poor sledding at 20 degrees I may or may not start to think about putting a coat on LOL. The Twin Cities do have an idling law I believe. But in the rest of the State we stay out of other peoples business as a rule.
Instructor
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 823
Likes: 168
From: Massachusetts
Tech Features ... I do not understand why this is even a point of discussion ... the GX is THE MOST RELIABLE vehicle on the planet earth ... drive for 250,000 ++ miles without (non-tech) issues and be happy. It is a transportation device ... not a tech-feature ridden device. These posts are the exact reason automakers are adding (pre-mature) tech complexity that only results in frustration ... so live with the consequence ...
Toyota ... Hybrid ... they are ruling now in the market, since the EV thing is not ready for prime time. That's why Toyota waits until technology is actually proven ... rock solid ... until they integrate ... something that is reflected in their quality and long-term reliability standings.
Toyota ... Hybrid ... they are ruling now in the market, since the EV thing is not ready for prime time. That's why Toyota waits until technology is actually proven ... rock solid ... until they integrate ... something that is reflected in their quality and long-term reliability standings.
Pole Position
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 2,659
Likes: 1,411
From: WA
I admit that it is annoying on the other hand can't help but think how hard is it to put your foot on the brake and hit a button to start it up again, really? Beats digging a key out of your pants pocket under a heavy jacket when it is in the twenties or thirties below zero. On the other hand it would be nice to not have to reach all the way up to the dash and hit that start button....
Pole Position
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 2,659
Likes: 1,411
From: WA
I could care less about hybrids. I want the engine to remain on when I open the door while using the remote start. We had Toyota put in a remote start in our 23 Camry and the engine remains on when we unlock the door and open the door and get in the car. We put the key into the ignition and drive off. That’s the way that a remote start should work. Even our 1998 Camry had the same setup with the remote start. This s h i t with the engine turning itself off when you open the door is bull s h i t . It’s a huge inconvenience to have to restart the car again. I hate that.
Intermediate
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 255
Likes: 154
From: Colorado/Florida
To be clear, the action to get a remotely started car moving is the same, whether the engine shuts off when the door is opened, or not. Press brake -> push Start (or insert the key and turn it, depending on vintage) -> move shifter to drive gear. What's different is the urgency one feels to do the first two steps after walking across a frozen parking lot. It doesn't make any real difference, but being out on an icy windy night makes the shutoff seem ridiculous. It is at least needless, as demonstrated by other manufacturers.
The super silly one was my wife's '13 RX. I can't remember if the app wasn't supported or we didn't pay for the service, but we could only remote start from the fob. Its range was a whopping 30', so you had roughly 11 steps to take between starting the car and the engine shutting off when the door was open. We didn't use it much.
Mark
The super silly one was my wife's '13 RX. I can't remember if the app wasn't supported or we didn't pay for the service, but we could only remote start from the fob. Its range was a whopping 30', so you had roughly 11 steps to take between starting the car and the engine shutting off when the door was open. We didn't use it much.
Mark
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Schweden
RX - 4th Gen (2016-2022)
18
Sep 13, 2023 01:22 PM
kingzley
GS - 4th Gen (2013-2020)
18
Apr 19, 2023 07:17 AM