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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 06:58 AM
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Unhappy 3rd Gen impact to 2nd Gen

Hi everyone,

What's everyone's opinions on how the release of the 3rd gen will do to the price of the 2nd gen? I realize there will be some impact but how severe?

I was looking at the LX and it seems like the price on the previous generation has held up pretty well even after the new generation was released. At the same time I realize there are far fewer LX's out there relative to GX's.

Reason I ask is because I just purchased a '23 but read a few threads here and on Reddit where people believe the price will halve up the release of the '24. I spoke to a dealer about what I could get on my trade-in toward maybe a '21 LX with 20k miles if I wanted to and at present time, the $ value lost would be minimal vs. (from what it sounds like) could happen in the future.

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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 09:03 AM
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Halve ? ... that is absolute drama. Lots of real information out there ... the GX470 to GX460 change-over ... the multi generational 4-Runner change-over.

Demand has always maintained given the relatively limited production numbers ... plus a naturally aspirated V8 will be sought after given it is a simple, proven and bulletproof in comparison to a V6 twin-turbo.

Beyond that ... why are you worried about depreciation ... you just bought the thing ... with the GX (and 4-Runner) depreciation for all generations being close to the best in the industry.

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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 09:31 AM
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Halve ? ... that is absolute drama. Lots of real information out there ... the GX470 to GX460 change-over ... the multi generational 4-Runner change-over.

Demand has always maintained given the relatively limited production numbers ... plus a naturally aspirated V8 will be sought after given it is a simple, proven and bulletproof in comparison to a V6 twin-turbo.

Beyond that ... why are you worried about depreciation ... you just bought the thing ... with the GX (and 4-Runner) depreciation for all generations being close to the best in the industry.
I appreciate the reassurance! Personally I purchased the vehicle because of it's well known reliability and value retention. I guess I just jumped to conclusions after reading a few people's opinions online.
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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 01:11 PM
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I can tell you that I am far more interested in a GX550 than I am in the GX460. Its capability and size are much more appealing to me as someone who uses the vehicle for a wide range of purposes(offroading, towing and daily driving/soccer mom/grocery getting.) The twin turbo V6 is a big deal for me and will trade in the V8 in a heart beat given the opportunity. I've owned and towed with an F150 3.5L Ecoboost for 9 years now and its not contest for me. The TTV6 is the superior motor in almost every way.

That said, I dont think it will cause the GX460 to cut in half or anywhere close to it because 99% of the owners dont use it for anything but starbucks trips.

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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by skrypj
The TTV6 is the superior motor in almost every way.
AAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Thank you for the laugh, I needed that today.
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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MrTorgue
AAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Thank you for the laugh, I needed that today.
^ Agree ... Specs vs. Reality ... Proven vs. Warranty Claim ... 300,000 mile Reliabily vs. ????


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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ASE
^ Agree ... Specs vs. Reality ... Proven vs. Warranty Claim ... 300,000 mile Reliabily vs. ????
considering i own both a TTV6(from Ford!) and a GX460, i think im better positioned to make baseless claims on the internet

Real world the TTV6 is better in almost every way. The only two major draw backs are the crappy sound and the alledgedly lower reliability. Even if i had to do major repairs to the Toyota TTV6 every 100k I wouldn’t care. I’d trade the V8 for it.

I dont base my entire automotive purchases on reliability.

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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MrTorgue
AAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Thank you for the laugh, I needed that today.
If you drove one daily and you towed you would understand what i mean.

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Nevernind. Not worth my breath.

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Originally Posted by ASE
^ Agree ... Specs vs. Reality ... Proven vs. Warranty Claim ... 300,000 mile Reliabily vs. ????
Exactly! It's pretty common knowledge that twin turbo setups shorten engine and plastic connector life due to heat. I'll take an old but proven V8 platform over some potential grenade or electrical gremlin due to plastic degradation due to excessive heat from these types of engines. (*see BMW & Audi).
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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 11:33 PM
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I'm currently running a 2019 GX. Love the truck. It has the same Nav screen as my 2012 ISF

The newer models should have gotten the new style NX/RX Nav interface. Not the one that came out in 2016
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Old Sep 21, 2023 | 04:53 AM
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I think the added complexity and questions over longevity and reliability will actually steer some buyers towards a used GX w/ a V8 and over a decade of proven tech. Same goes for the LX. The only reason I could see people wanting the new GX would be a substantial increase in fuel economy, but that didn't happen.

Coming from the GX470 to the GX460 there are a few things I think they really got wrong with the interior functions, and it will be interesting to see what they improved or messed up on the latest version.

Toyota owners a bit of a different breed then most, as the things that are important to them aren't always the latest and greatest, yada yada yada.
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Old Sep 21, 2023 | 05:59 AM
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The GX is one of the most tested vehicles in the world…around the world. The Prado has been used in every condition all over the globe. If you think a twin turbo will be more reliable than a V8…..I’ve been towing with a GX for literally 10 years without a single issue, and I don’t just tow to a local boat ramp. I tow from Destin, Fl down to Big Pine Key almost monthly now. Sure, the extra torque could come into play with the new generation, but for just a single better MPG and decreased reliability (IMO) I’m willing to keep on enjoying my new 23 and wait until the jury returns on the new gen. I like the newer look and the better wheel articulation, but not enough to jump on the bandwagon just because it’s new. Time will tell…
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Old Sep 21, 2023 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MrTorgue
Nevernind. Not worth my breath.
No, its not.
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Old Sep 21, 2023 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jonshonda
I think the added complexity and questions over longevity and reliability will actually steer some buyers towards a used GX w/ a V8 and over a decade of proven tech. Same goes for the LX. The only reason I could see people wanting the new GX would be a substantial increase in fuel economy, but that didn't happen.

Coming from the GX470 to the GX460 there are a few things I think they really got wrong with the interior functions, and it will be interesting to see what they improved or messed up on the latest version.

Toyota owners a bit of a different breed then most, as the things that are important to them aren't always the latest and greatest, yada yada yada.
How did Toyota owners feel when they put VVTi in the 2UZ? Was the sky falling then too?
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