3rd Gen impact to 2nd Gen
So dumb question here, since I just purchased my GX new (and at msrp, I know in hindsight stupid when others are getting it marked down a little) should I trade in for a used ~$50k 4Runner to minimize the loss and depreciation when the new model is released?
I realize the current gen 4Runner can/will drop in price as well but it’s a shorter drop from ~$50k down vs $74k down (luxury and sport purchased from Lexus of Austin).
I feel pretty crappy right now over the purchase so keeping the criticism on the light side would be greatly appreciated. I made a mistake and now I’m paying for it, minimizing (potentially) the impact and loss is the goal now.
I called a few dealerships inquiring about a ‘21-‘22 used Tacoma/4Runner and found a few that would allow me to trade in at my current 500mi for $71-$72 depending on the dealership.
I realize the current gen 4Runner can/will drop in price as well but it’s a shorter drop from ~$50k down vs $74k down (luxury and sport purchased from Lexus of Austin).
I feel pretty crappy right now over the purchase so keeping the criticism on the light side would be greatly appreciated. I made a mistake and now I’m paying for it, minimizing (potentially) the impact and loss is the goal now.
I called a few dealerships inquiring about a ‘21-‘22 used Tacoma/4Runner and found a few that would allow me to trade in at my current 500mi for $71-$72 depending on the dealership.
I own both these vehicles too! And agree with skrypj that the F150 3.5 TTV6 is a beast for towing, and just a completely different animal than the GX460. For this reason, I have never towed anything of any size with the GX460. Other than pulling a stuck tractor out of mud. (I think I'd still be there with the F150 that I foolishly got with an open diff. I'm adding an Eaton Trutrac diff). I just added a BeatSonic Shiftpower throttle adaptor to get the GX460 throttle more responsive, since I'm so spoiled by the F150. I am truly impressed...awed really... by the combination of performance and mpg of that Ford 3.5 TTV6. On level ground, summer tires, summer gas, warm temps at 65 mph, I can flirt with 27 mpg in the F150. Ford's 2.7 TTV6 would do even better.
If I could put the F150 engine and transmission in the GX, I might....and cross my fingers....
Lexus just did.
And probably a more reliable version, perhaps after some teething pains. My problem with the F150 is the rest of the vehicle and overall poor build quality and reliability. But the powertrain has been pretty good for 93,000 miles...other than the general worry that it's a Ford and specific worry cam phasers will fail. I have infinitely more faith in Toyota/Lexus to pull this off than Ford.
Thank you Skrypj! I had never really thought it through like this. You may have changed my mind! I might accept added complexity and risk for far superior performance.
If I could put the F150 engine and transmission in the GX, I might....and cross my fingers....
Lexus just did.
And probably a more reliable version, perhaps after some teething pains. My problem with the F150 is the rest of the vehicle and overall poor build quality and reliability. But the powertrain has been pretty good for 93,000 miles...other than the general worry that it's a Ford and specific worry cam phasers will fail. I have infinitely more faith in Toyota/Lexus to pull this off than Ford.
Thank you Skrypj! I had never really thought it through like this. You may have changed my mind! I might accept added complexity and risk for far superior performance.
^I think we will all eventually "see the light" once a lot of real world experience with the new powerplant from Toyota. I am sure the Ford forums were very similar when turbos started replacing pistons.
The towing videos I have seen from the tundra are very promising. Because the torque is available around 2000-2500rpm the engine makes towing seem effortless, not a lot of constant hunting for gears and power up in the higher rev range like the 4.6 or 5.7 V8. It just seems to gobble up elevation changes with ease, which is obviously different then the V8.
The towing videos I have seen from the tundra are very promising. Because the torque is available around 2000-2500rpm the engine makes towing seem effortless, not a lot of constant hunting for gears and power up in the higher rev range like the 4.6 or 5.7 V8. It just seems to gobble up elevation changes with ease, which is obviously different then the V8.
Why don't you just keep the GX460 for the next 10 years - did you not like it when you bought it? Gotta figure you will be losing value each time you trade in / out (documentation/Taxes etc.) Maybe better to just sell them the car and get a lease if you only want a car for a few years.
It’s possible that you’re right. You seem to have a very strong emotions about the GX550 and the majority of GX owners who are not into off-roading.
What does that mean? I've seen a lot of "real" GX owners including myself that won't "embrace" the change. I suspect casuals and any current GX owner who never sees dirt will buy the new shiny object (aka GX550). IMO two we are talking about two separate audiences here.
i don't think it will affect the 2nd gen at all, if anything it should keep prices higher due to those that care about reliability who are keeping this for 500k+ miles
if you want shiny and new, nothing wrong with that, although i'd probably avoid the first year of a new model until they work some bugs out.
if you want shiny and new, nothing wrong with that, although i'd probably avoid the first year of a new model until they work some bugs out.
Yes ... after Mercedes destroyed their superior DNA based competence with the Chrysler acquisition. So yes, BMW followed. Best if marketers ditch numbers and go with make believe words that only reinforce that a vehicle should not be taken seriously let alone purchased.
Yeah to the non-Lexus enthusiast it's hard to explain that the GX460 is the GX470 successor. I think larger numbers typically mean newer and better based on other naming conventions, but NOOOOO Lexus just had to not use a 4.8L.
I can tell you that I am far more interested in a GX550 than I am in the GX460. Its capability and size are much more appealing to me as someone who uses the vehicle for a wide range of purposes(offroading, towing and daily driving/soccer mom/grocery getting.) The twin turbo V6 is a big deal for me and will trade in the V8 in a heart beat given the opportunity. I've owned and towed with an F150 3.5L Ecoboost for 9 years now and its not contest for me. The TTV6 is the superior motor in almost every way.
That said, I dont think it will cause the GX460 to cut in half or anywhere close to it because 99% of the owners dont use it for anything but starbucks trips.
That said, I dont think it will cause the GX460 to cut in half or anywhere close to it because 99% of the owners dont use it for anything but starbucks trips.
Wait! I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not?!! Did this go over my head?
If you prefer the 550, then just go for it. What's the point of asking the internet of what their preferences are? Like who literally cares what you buy or dont buy? It's your own money and your car at the end of the day. Buy what you like and sell what you dont.
I don’t think the 3rd gen will have much impact on 2nd gen prices at all. If anything, the arrival of the gem 3 may slow the depreciation of the 2nd gen as it seems demand for the unique traits of the vehicle as only been going up in recent years. The GX is where people seem to find themselves when they reject modernity, but still don’t want to drive some agrarian pile of parts.
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