Alignment for a GX
Originally Posted by trebien
Geez... here we go again.
Please, I beg you, explain to me how to set the "toe-in" of the rear wheels of the GX.

Please, I beg you, explain to me how to set the "toe-in" of the rear wheels of the GX.

And for your info.. even lexus Dealership here. (don valley lexus) confirms doing 4 wheel alignment on GX so i don't know why its hard for you to understand.
Originally Posted by sayadil
well i'm no mechanic.. but it would likely be done the same way as front.
Originally Posted by sayadil
which is the actual alignment of the tire itself and not what the tire is attached to? coz that has no scope of adjustment.. but the tire can be aligned pretty much like its done on the front.
Look - you can't change the angles of the rear wheels. Period.
I give up.
Originally Posted by trebien
No, it wouldn't. Completely different suspension designs. Look under you car.
Oh, I see. They actually align just the tire... not the wheel or the axle. So I guess they bend the tire on the wheel to make it point straight... Or maybe they get a welder, break the rear axle, and then re-weld the rear axle back together at the right angle for the alignment. That would make sense.
Look - you can't change the angles of the rear wheels. Period.
I give up.
Oh, I see. They actually align just the tire... not the wheel or the axle. So I guess they bend the tire on the wheel to make it point straight... Or maybe they get a welder, break the rear axle, and then re-weld the rear axle back together at the right angle for the alignment. That would make sense.
Look - you can't change the angles of the rear wheels. Period.
I give up.
... and why u confusing toe with cambur adjustment... why would they need to align or break axles... they said tires.. why dont u call ur local lexus dealership and whine,,
Originally Posted by sayadil
front suspension is mostly different then rear..even on my landcruiser and that goes for 4wheel alignment as well
... and why u confusing toe with cambur adjustment... why would they need to align or break axles... they said tires.. why dont u call ur local lexus dealership and whine,,
... and why u confusing toe with cambur adjustment... why would they need to align or break axles... they said tires.. why dont u call ur local lexus dealership and whine,,
Take care.
Originally Posted by trebien
Dude - I'm not whining. I'm trying to actually help you and educate you. I see that's a lost cause, since you want to continue to argue about something that you know nothing about.
Take care.
Take care.
i suggest u call up any local tire expert and ask them those witty senseless questions.. (like " do they break axles" ? )
I feel as if I am being civil... I have no anger towards this guy, and am simply trying to educate him. I am not name calling or making disparaging remarks towards him.
For reference, I worked in the performance industry, modifying and building 600+ HP race cars. I attended college for aerospace engineering. I'll take my "experience" over your "heresay" anyday. All you have at this point is "heresay" from what others are telling you, and overlaying it with your lack of knowledge to try to create an arguement.
I am done with this thread - there is no point to continue. I didn't mean to hurt anybody's feelings. However, I WOULD still appreciate a response if you can explain how to adjust the "toe-in" of the rear wheels. Thanks.
For reference, I worked in the performance industry, modifying and building 600+ HP race cars. I attended college for aerospace engineering. I'll take my "experience" over your "heresay" anyday. All you have at this point is "heresay" from what others are telling you, and overlaying it with your lack of knowledge to try to create an arguement.
I am done with this thread - there is no point to continue. I didn't mean to hurt anybody's feelings. However, I WOULD still appreciate a response if you can explain how to adjust the "toe-in" of the rear wheels. Thanks.
I don't know who trebien is,but he's right and sayadil is wrong.
There are no adjustable alignment angles on a GX470's rear suspension. If any measurements are out of spec,it's indicative that something is damaged (bent control arms for example). Although only the front suspension angles are adjusted,measurements are still done to the rear suspension for checking thrust angle and damage.
Tire Rack has a pretty good article on wheel alignment,look under Tech Center in the Shopping Tools menu.
There are no adjustable alignment angles on a GX470's rear suspension. If any measurements are out of spec,it's indicative that something is damaged (bent control arms for example). Although only the front suspension angles are adjusted,measurements are still done to the rear suspension for checking thrust angle and damage.
Tire Rack has a pretty good article on wheel alignment,look under Tech Center in the Shopping Tools menu.
Originally Posted by LexusTech
I don't know who trebien is,but he's right and sayadil is wrong.
There are no adjustable alignment angles on a GX470's rear suspension. If any measurements are out of spec,it's indicative that something is damaged (bent control arms for example). Although only the front suspension angles are adjusted,measurements are still done to the rear suspension for checking thrust angle and damage.
Tire Rack has a pretty good article on wheel alignment,look under Tech Center in the Shopping Tools menu.
There are no adjustable alignment angles on a GX470's rear suspension. If any measurements are out of spec,it's indicative that something is damaged (bent control arms for example). Although only the front suspension angles are adjusted,measurements are still done to the rear suspension for checking thrust angle and damage.
Tire Rack has a pretty good article on wheel alignment,look under Tech Center in the Shopping Tools menu.
My responce is/was based on what i've been told by to people who r experts in this area. who do this for living? so just becoz someone tells me he has all these degrees and experience doesn't really mean much. i mean i could list all accomplishments under the sun here...
everyone can chose who to believe and my choice stays my dealer who's been doing excellent job with my car. I have no problems with trebien or anyone else on this site. I respect people's opinion. this forum is meant for discussions... and passing on knowlege that you get from other people who are expert in fixing cars... not everyone here has a degree in order to... not be talking based on hearsay... like i said earlier.. i'm no mechanic.. like most people on this forum..and most stuff that is typed here... is based on personal experience with the car n the problems and the dealerships... not on our proffesional expertise.
hope that explains.. and i apologize if my words have offended anyone. it wasn't intentional.
OK GUYS
Finally got off the phone from my tire shop techinician.. his name is peter who works for superior tire canada.. can be contacted through www.superiortire.ca
this is an article from the website www.familycar.com explained by peter.
There are two kinds of 4 wheel alignments...
Four Wheel Alignments
There are two main types of 4-wheel alignments. In each case, the technician will place an instrument on all four wheels. In the first type the rear toe and tracking is checked, but all adjustments are made at the front wheels. This is done on vehicles that do not have adjustments on the rear. The second type is a full 4-wheel alignment where the adjustments are first made to true up the rear alignment, then the front is adjusted. A full 4-wheel alignment will cost more than the other type because there is more work involved.
GX needs the first kind of four wheel alignment not the second.. but it is definately 4 wheel not 2 wheel alignment.
Hope that explains.. anymore question should be either directed to www.familycar.com or peter.
Finally got off the phone from my tire shop techinician.. his name is peter who works for superior tire canada.. can be contacted through www.superiortire.ca
this is an article from the website www.familycar.com explained by peter.
There are two kinds of 4 wheel alignments...
Four Wheel Alignments
There are two main types of 4-wheel alignments. In each case, the technician will place an instrument on all four wheels. In the first type the rear toe and tracking is checked, but all adjustments are made at the front wheels. This is done on vehicles that do not have adjustments on the rear. The second type is a full 4-wheel alignment where the adjustments are first made to true up the rear alignment, then the front is adjusted. A full 4-wheel alignment will cost more than the other type because there is more work involved.
GX needs the first kind of four wheel alignment not the second.. but it is definately 4 wheel not 2 wheel alignment.
Hope that explains.. anymore question should be either directed to www.familycar.com or peter.
LexusTech n Trebien.... I stand Corrected. I have confirmed it with my dealer service advisor "Cato" at Don Valley Lexus as well.. GX needs a 4 wheel alignment and the rear toe is adjusted through the front like peter explained, its not 2wheel alignment.
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