Lexus GSF One Take
10-31-18, 11:47 AM
#17
One word “GRENADE”! Yes it spins to a higher rev limit, but from my experience that engine will not last the miles that the 5.0l Lexus V8 will go. Even the 6.2l V8 in my C63 as much as I love it is capable revving to 8000k, but isn’t as reliable as the well built Lexus 5.0l V8.
10-31-18, 02:34 PM
#18
Lexus Test Driver
p.s. The GT350 Voodoo engine is also one of the greatest N/A V8s.
Last edited by 05RollaXRS; 10-31-18 at 03:30 PM.
10-31-18, 05:39 PM
#19
One word “GRENADE”! Yes it spins to a higher rev limit, but from my experience that engine will not last the miles that the 5.0l Lexus V8 will go. Even the 6.2l V8 in my C63 as much as I love it is capable revving to 8000k, but isn’t as reliable as the well built Lexus 5.0l V8.
10-31-18, 05:41 PM
#20
I have driven an E90 M3 and RS5. E90 M3 was the car of choice before I change my mind to the RCF. The RS5 engine was quite underwhelming power delivery wise, actually. I gave RCF and E90 M3 almost same points. RCF like Matt Farrah said, feels more powerful at high rpm and torquier, but the E90 M3 revved higher. However, RCF feels just as intense, responsive and dramatic at high rpm. I chose the RCF (and to spend the extra money) because of the more modern platform, interior and exterior.
p.s. The GT350 Voodoo engine is also one of the greatest N/A V8s.
p.s. The GT350 Voodoo engine is also one of the greatest N/A V8s.
And I absolutely agree with you on the Voodoo, that engine is just stupid (in a good way)
10-31-18, 06:27 PM
#21
The grenading you're alluding to is the timing chain and guides failure on the B6 engines, but thats because poor maintenance. Yes the engine is stupidly over-engineered (no surprise there, almost everything german is over-engineered), but I have seen that engine on cars nearing 100K miles without issues. However, any engine will fail with poor or no maintenance, even ours. Thats why we're called to change the oil every 5K miles.
Not to pick with you, but I find your statement to contradict your own statement.
1. I would hope any modern atmospheric engine is capable of achieving at least 100k without any major repairs. (I never said Audi V8’s couldn’t make it to 100k, I was alluding to the likelyhood that they won’t make it to 300-500k and above, which Toyota V8’s are praised for.)
2. You say almost everything German is over engineered right after admitting Audi motors have timing chain & guide issues, many Audizine Forum members would beg to differ and I completely disagree with you saying their V8 and i4 engines grenade due solely because of owner neglect.
3. Sorry, but Audi’s are trash cars imo. I’ve come close to buying several 24-36 month lease returned Audi’s and backed out due it failing a basic pre-purchase inspection. They are full of electrical gremlins, transmission failures and carbon clogged motors. These issues aren’t caused by owners who don’t change their fluids on schedule, it’s caused by a manufacturer who is constantly racing to the finishline instead of taking their time engineering a product that will last hundreds of thousands of miles with simply and normal maintenance.
4. Audi are a safe bet under warranty, but I wouldn’t touch one without a factory warranty. Unless I was a mechanically inclined technician.
5. The GS-F is a much better made car than the Audi S6 of the same era.
Last edited by highrev6; 10-31-18 at 08:15 PM.
10-31-18, 08:05 PM
#22
Lexus Test Driver
11-01-18, 08:55 PM
#23
A very cool video; hadn't seen this one before. Lots of variables when the speedos are side by side but it appears the cars are even at 148 kph and after that, the GSF has stronger legs. Both machines are pretty fantastic and thanks for sharing!
Eric
Eric
Last edited by embassured; 11-03-18 at 06:20 PM.
11-01-18, 09:07 PM
#24
Lexus Test Driver
True. It is not scientific and speedo error can skew it a few KMs, but just gives a general idea.
11-03-18, 02:00 PM
#26
Still, Lexus wins it. I only wish they had modernized the car (carplay/android auto, way way better NAV, 360 cameras) before they kill it next year.
Last edited by lobuxracer; 11-03-18 at 02:13 PM.
11-03-18, 02:03 PM
#27
A coworker has a 2007 M6 with that sweet, super sweet V10. Orgasmic, no other way to describe it. Except of course when he had to get the 30K Mile service done, including replacing all 10 throttle bodies and their harness...
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