Starting Issue - A Toughie.
#1
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Starting Issue - A Toughie.
I need to know if any of you have had this problem, and how it was fixed.
I have an intermittent starting problem, it seems to flare up just a few times a year. I have a 98 GS400.
I swear it's somehow related to humidity. It always seems to be rainy when this occurs - however, the car is in a garage.
The car cranks over strong, but just does not ignite. Sometimes, you can leave it alone for 1/2 hour and it'll start up. Other times, it needs to sit longer.
It's been taken to the shop several times, but has never repeated the behavior when at the shop. I know that intermittent electrical problems are the hardest to find, and I'm not willing to fork over more cash for someone to take a shotgun approach at the problem.
Has anyone else had this problem with their GS, and did you find a solution?
I have an intermittent starting problem, it seems to flare up just a few times a year. I have a 98 GS400.
I swear it's somehow related to humidity. It always seems to be rainy when this occurs - however, the car is in a garage.
The car cranks over strong, but just does not ignite. Sometimes, you can leave it alone for 1/2 hour and it'll start up. Other times, it needs to sit longer.
It's been taken to the shop several times, but has never repeated the behavior when at the shop. I know that intermittent electrical problems are the hardest to find, and I'm not willing to fork over more cash for someone to take a shotgun approach at the problem.
Has anyone else had this problem with their GS, and did you find a solution?
#3
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i've had the same type of problem before but with a different car.. turns out it was a main relay.. i haven't looked in the GS.. but you might want to look into a main relay, fuel pump relay or maybe even a new fuel pump.. hope that helps..
this is all assuming you've covered all the basic tune-up..
this is all assuming you've covered all the basic tune-up..
#4
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i've had the same type of problem before but with a different car.. turns out it was a main relay.. i haven't looked in the GS.. but you might want to look into a main relay, fuel pump relay or maybe even a new fuel pump.. hope that helps..
this is all assuming you've covered all the basic tune-up..
this is all assuming you've covered all the basic tune-up..
#5
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i've had the same type of problem before but with a different car.. turns out it was a main relay.. i haven't looked in the GS.. but you might want to look into a main relay, fuel pump relay or maybe even a new fuel pump.. hope that helps..
this is all assuming you've covered all the basic tune-up..
this is all assuming you've covered all the basic tune-up..
#6
Wow...i thought nobody else had this problem. My 2gs does the same thing. I notice that nobody else knows how to start my car but me. Its like there is a sweet spot as you turn the key...if you turn to fast, it will miss, you have to get it just right. I dont know if yours is like that, but mine is and it sucks.
#7
hmmm....i have been having problems starting my car the past few days also
but it only happens in the morning, after it has been sitting all night.
Yesterday:
i put the key in, turn to position 1, turn to position 2 , all the dash lights come on, then turn it to crank it and nothing happens. no sound, no clicking, no starting.
so then i took the key out. let it sit for a few seconds. and tried it again.
it finally worked after the 4th try, but when it did crank, it sounded very weak and it barely started.
the rest of the day, i had no problems starting it.
Today:
on my first attempt to start, it was cranking over in a very weak manner, kinda sounded like it was about to die, but it ended up starting on the first try.
hopefully it continues to start for the rest of the day.
Is this a relay problem? or starter problem? or alternator?
i dont think it is a battery issue b/c all the lights came on and i just put in a new battery a few months ago.
any thoughts???
but it only happens in the morning, after it has been sitting all night.
Yesterday:
i put the key in, turn to position 1, turn to position 2 , all the dash lights come on, then turn it to crank it and nothing happens. no sound, no clicking, no starting.
so then i took the key out. let it sit for a few seconds. and tried it again.
it finally worked after the 4th try, but when it did crank, it sounded very weak and it barely started.
the rest of the day, i had no problems starting it.
Today:
on my first attempt to start, it was cranking over in a very weak manner, kinda sounded like it was about to die, but it ended up starting on the first try.
hopefully it continues to start for the rest of the day.
Is this a relay problem? or starter problem? or alternator?
i dont think it is a battery issue b/c all the lights came on and i just put in a new battery a few months ago.
any thoughts???
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#9
i don't think it is my battery cuz i just replaced it a few months ago w/ a DieHard Gold....its prob still under warranty....ill take it in and have it checked
replacing a battery is much cheaper than replacing a starter....i really hope i dont have to replace the starter
#10
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Wow...i thought nobody else had this problem. My 2gs does the same thing. I notice that nobody else knows how to start my car but me. Its like there is a sweet spot as you turn the key...if you turn to fast, it will miss, you have to get it just right. I dont know if yours is like that, but mine is and it sucks.
#11
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The honda thing is a relay under the dash. My friend has the same problem, he carries those air cans with him. When he can't start up, he pulls off one of the lower dash panels, and sprays the air can in there, upside down. It is really cold when you do that, the relay seems to tighten up and he starts the car. He has been unable to find that relay for a while.
#13
hmmm....i have been having problems starting my car the past few days also
but it only happens in the morning, after it has been sitting all night.
Yesterday:
i put the key in, turn to position 1, turn to position 2 , all the dash lights come on, then turn it to crank it and nothing happens. no sound, no clicking, no starting.
so then i took the key out. let it sit for a few seconds. and tried it again.
it finally worked after the 4th try, but when it did crank, it sounded very weak and it barely started.
the rest of the day, i had no problems starting it.
Today:
on my first attempt to start, it was cranking over in a very weak manner, kinda sounded like it was about to die, but it ended up starting on the first try.
hopefully it continues to start for the rest of the day.
Is this a relay problem? or starter problem? or alternator?
i dont think it is a battery issue b/c all the lights came on and i just put in a new battery a few months ago.
any thoughts???
but it only happens in the morning, after it has been sitting all night.
Yesterday:
i put the key in, turn to position 1, turn to position 2 , all the dash lights come on, then turn it to crank it and nothing happens. no sound, no clicking, no starting.
so then i took the key out. let it sit for a few seconds. and tried it again.
it finally worked after the 4th try, but when it did crank, it sounded very weak and it barely started.
the rest of the day, i had no problems starting it.
Today:
on my first attempt to start, it was cranking over in a very weak manner, kinda sounded like it was about to die, but it ended up starting on the first try.
hopefully it continues to start for the rest of the day.
Is this a relay problem? or starter problem? or alternator?
i dont think it is a battery issue b/c all the lights came on and i just put in a new battery a few months ago.
any thoughts???
#14
yeah, havent found a solution yet, cuz i dont know what the exact problem is....
could be battery, could be relay, could be starter, could be alternator...i duno, im not a mechanic....i guess ill have to wait till it completely dies b4 i can truly diagnose it.....
i checked my battery and terminals and everything is tight and clean, so i have ruled that out
so its either something funny goin on w/ the relay or the starter
this problem is very intermittent....hasnt happened the past few days
could be battery, could be relay, could be starter, could be alternator...i duno, im not a mechanic....i guess ill have to wait till it completely dies b4 i can truly diagnose it.....
i checked my battery and terminals and everything is tight and clean, so i have ruled that out
so its either something funny goin on w/ the relay or the starter
this problem is very intermittent....hasnt happened the past few days