Motu1

So NOS came up in my M3 hater post as a possible alternative. I didn't want any of the information about NOS to get lost there so I posted here.

OK I'm not well versed on NOS. Any guys here with it in your GS 400/430's? I've seen the NOS brand and the ZEX brand are they about the same or is one better then the other? Other then seeing it hyped in movies like 2 fast 2 furious it seems this is a mod you use on straight lengths of road? I'm gonna check out the NOS site and find some info there but whatever you guys can give as far as info would be greatly appreciated.

00lexondub

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i have heard that NOS will damage the motor when used excessively.. i eprsonalyl would not use it .. however i was thinking in installin it jsut for showA=s!

DaveGS4

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Motu1,

Have you tried searching for your answer? Althought NOS is a brand (some people will call you F&F for referring to it like that... call it nitrous or N02) we've had lots of discussion of nitrous in our forum.

For example... I put 'nitrous' in the search keyword and pointed search at the GS forum and found these right away among others:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...hlight=nitrous
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...hlight=nitrous
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...hlight=nitrous
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...hlight=nitrous
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...hlight=nitrous
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...hlight=nitrous
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/performance/70851-2jz-gte-swap-vs-turbo-vs-nitrous.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/2gen-gs430-400-300-classifieds-98-05/92360-nos-system-for-sale.html

Motu1

I thought I was refering to it(NOS) as a brand as well as the Zex brand and if anyone here has had experience with those brands.

Yep used the search feature and wading through the posts

DaveGS4

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Actually you did both 4 times as generic "NOS" including thread title and 2 times as the brand "NOS" I apologize because 'm getting MUCH too picky though, call it what you want. Just please don't walk into a shop and ask about their prices for 'NOS' because they will snicker at you and laugh when you leave. That's the stuff that I'm trying to avoid for you .

I didn't search specifically for Zex, so you might want to do some digging on that too. Good luck!

Member Roenick7 (I included some of his posts below) had the most extensive nitrous setup on his GS, so I'd dig through his posts extensively.

NT2SHBBY

for the safety and reliability of your 430, and for the love of G-d, please don't add rice juice to your beast....


nitrous always leaks (purge valves, etc...), it KILLS your engine and its not a replacement for displacement...



think of NOS as whipits for your engine..... if you do too many whipits your brain stops functioning-the same goes for NOS

D-MAN63

ROFL..

Motu1

LOL I like that analogy SHBBY

Just exploring and getting opinions and first hand experiences that's why forums like these are great

DaveGS thanks for the heads up bro and I apreciate your comments

chuckb

you mean I'm not supposed to have this 250hp kit on my car?

.................................j/k

you like these stickers, right? I think they are real classy and not ricey at all.

HKS_GS430

how would NOS hurt the engine aymore then FI ?u can will be very low 13's to high 12's with a 80shot on stock 430 with some good tires. its cheap $500 for kit and $150 for install,$30 per refill(u get about 10-15 runs depending on shot size. on the highway you will be a beast! j just mount the NOS bottle inside a gym bag and you can zip it up and anyone that looks in your trunk wont notice nothing,just a gym bag . also get a window switch for the RPMs.and if you mess up the motor,just pull out the system and go to dealer and have them fix it, under warranty .and if you lease , no one will ever kno u ever had NOS once you remove it. NOS is not dangerous only the guy hitting the button is , NOS IS NOT RICE!!! tell that to all the guys running nos at all the race event, especially at the top fuel and funny car races.. i have seen insane mustangs all doped up on NOS,,,just my 2 cents. different people have different strokes.

NT2SHBBY

riiiiiiiiiiiight...and thats why NOS is banned at any legitimate racing event right?

and how is NOS bad for the car? did you not read what I wrote b4? NOS=WHIPITS FOR YOUR ENGINE!!!!


talk to anyone who runs or ran NOS, and ask how many engines they went thru.....I know many ppl who will tell me NOW that NOS ruined their cars....


btw just so you know whipits are bad.....mmmm k?

chuckb

Nitrous is not recomended without forged pistons and o ringed heads although you can get by(for a while ) without . Nitrous is dangerous for your motor IF you don't get enough gas in there with the nitrous OR you have too much timing. And who knows what effect VVT-i would have on timing. Most nitrous systems have a nitrous solenoid and a fuel solenoid to simutaneously inject a nitrous/gas mixture. If there is a malfuntion and you get pure nitrous with no extra fuel, you've got probs. Good luck explaining that for warranty work. I had nitrous on my old Stang, but it was only for "emergencies" . I probably used it 3 times in the whole time I had car.
I would never do that to my 430 but if you want to HKS, give a "shot" I don't think a 75hp kit will put you in the twelves either , and any more than that and you're asking for it.

CinFulxgs

A 75 shot would probably give you the highway wins you are looking for. If done correctly and used rarely it should not cause your engine to explode however total engine life will be less than expected after a couple years of use.

Blue98Gs3

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NT2shabby, I have to agree with some, and disagree with some of your post.

I agree, too much nitrous is very very bad for your engine for one reason, all nitrous does is add more oxygen to the intake charge, creating a lean situation if not enough fuel is added to the mixture. This is the main reason so many people fly through motors with nitrous systems, the systems are not tuned well and they create a lean charge throughout the engine when they hit the button.

In all actuality, nitrous does basically the same thing as Forced induction, it forces more air into the chambers of combustion. This is why engine management is such a important topic when you enter the Forced Induction world. To get the most, and be safest, your engine needs to be tuned to the new volume of air that is entering the combustion chamber and so it can correctly feed the amount of fuel the engine needs to not have detonation occur. And detonation is exactly what blows your engine, you have too much air and not enough fuel, and once that happens, say goodbye to your engine.

So to sum it all up, A small nitrous kit (50-75hp) that is used occasionaly will not "kill" your engine if you tune it right. To tune it right you need to strap it on a dyno and see exactly what the car does at different RPM's. This small nitrous kit will basically put the same amount of strain on the engine as any forced induction kit will, the only difference is how this new air is being forced into the engine, and how much of it.

CinFulxgs

Nitrous doesn't hurt a motor the idiot who set it up wrong hurts the motor... here's a decent article to read... This Zex kit sounds nice taking bottle pressure into account.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/howto/17883/

and you will know if your a ricer if...

You have more exhaust decibels than your engine has horsepower.
You have aftermarket FRONT wheels for racing but stock rear wheels.
Your engine makes twice as much horsepower as torque.
17" rims up front, 13" out back on your FWD.
You ever painted your wheels to match the same color of your car.
You put your automatic car in neutral at every stoplight in order to roll it back and try to fool other people into thinking you have a manual transmission.
DuPont gave up trying to figure out the shade you were asking for.
Your mod list includes stereo equipment, shifter handle, MOMO steering wheel, driving lights, exhaust tip, but no REAL performance engine parts.
A chameleon lizard undergoes fewer shade changes than your custom paint scheme.
Your rims and tires are so large, that you have to install the tire / wheel from underneath the car because it simply won't fit in the wheel well going in from the side.
The dealer laughs when you bring your car back in for service under warranty, and you've only had it 6 months...
All 4 tires/rims stick out from the wheel opening of your car.
You installed spacers on your STOCK wheels and tires to get them to stick out past the wheel openings.
You see cars that look just like yours in a Shriner's Parade and there are clowns driving them.
You bring an empty Maxwell House coffee can with you to compare size when you shop for an aftermarket exhaust system.
Your Eclipse GS-T hardtop has a "SPYDER" emblem on the rear...
Your sum knowledge of suspension is: "the more negative camber, the better the handling."
You push your car through the staging lanes. That way, maybe you can break into the 16s by keeping the motor cool between runs.
You add a super tall rear wing, and a hundred pounds of aftermarket ground effects, neon and stereo yet you gut the interior and yank out the rear seat for weight savings.
Your rear wing AND your rear window have a third brake light...
The back lighting in the gauges in your A-pillar gauge pod work long before the actual gauges are hooked up.
You cut 4 coil springs and scrape the chassis on the ground. Sparks are cool when you corner at normal traffic speeds!
You have to find a way to drive AROUND speed bumps in a parking lot so you don't break your neon underbody lights.
You install clear corner and brake lights.
You install colored bulbs in your aftermarket clear lenses.
You painted the UNDERBODY of your car to match
If your rear spoiler is taller then you are.
If you can fit your fist inside of your exhaust tip
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Your tailpipe extension fell off during a quarter mile race and you went three tenths of a second faster due to weight savings.
You spent $5,000 or more on the engine and you still can't out run a stock Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang
You want the 'wastegate' sound, but don't want to install a turbocharger system.
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The automatic version of your car runs 2 seconds slower in the 1/4mile.
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You spent all night on the Internet trying to find a company that makes a turbocharger system for your Hyundai...
If you removed your side view mirrors and put them at the TOP of the door / window frame.
If you think the Fugees are 'speed' music.
MOMO is 'absolutely required' to go fast.
Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed.
Your four cylinder has four exhaust pipes ("Hey, one for each cylinder!")
The color(s) of your interior upholstery hurts other people's eyes.
If you can't drive your car in snow because the ground effects create a plowing effect.
If you have installed driving lights to compensate for headlight blackouts / tape.
If you think that 180 horsepower and 185 lb/ft of torque are impressive for a ‘mildly’ modified engine.
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You think pushrods are a bad thing…
Your car has more stickers on it than your cars ET is in the 1/4 mile.
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If you gutted the interior to save weight but you will never take to the track.
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If it takes you 8000rpm to reach 30mph from a dead stop at WOT.
You think yellow plastic interior trim makes your car cool
If you paint your drum brakes to simulate Hi-po calipers
If you install fake hi-po caliper / disc simulators
You have a front wing.
If you lower your car and add ground effects but retain the stock 14inch wheels with disc style wheel covers
If you equate the sound of performance with the sound of a Weed Eater™
If you think bolting a fake muffler to one side to simulate dual exhaust is cool
If you think colored head lights work better
You claim you lost the race because you had a passenger in the car.
You claim that if you had a rolling start you would have beat him.
You claim you lost because you missed a shift... and your car is an automatic.
You claim you lost because he must have been on the juice..
Flying past the person who is 10 car lengths in front of you after they have put on their brakes.. and claim a victory.
after losing you flip your opponent off... rev your motor and fail to break the wheels loose even around a corner.
Tell everyone about how you lost the cop because of your "driving skills".
drive around in a $20,000 import with $10,000 in mods.. and still live with your parents.
You can relate to every line of the song "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" by the Offspring

… And the Number One reason you might be a ricer is ....... you are a skinny, backwards hat wearing kid, with a dog chain wallet, 2 ft wide pant legs, and you wear your waistline half way down on your azz, and you have the Limp Bizkit looking boy ***, fake limp, and a badly applied peroxide spiked hair job and you walk around sayin' something like, "Know wha I'm sayin' yo"!