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Old Aug 24, 2022 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Interesting. Is this Mazda in the US market or just the European market?
CX-60 is EU and Japan while upcoming CX-70 (basically just wider CX-60) will be US exclusive. From what I've heard both of them will share PHEV powertrain (which happens to be the most powerful one) while in EU and Japan get 3.3 inline six diesel and 3.0 NA inline gasoline Skyactive X is coming sometime in the future. For US besides NA I6 they will most likely release 3.0 twin turbo I6 but don't hold your breath that it will top out PHEV in horsepower numbers and perfromance.
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This is a Polestar 2 thread but it has a potential to become general electric car thread
no it won't, sorry.

back to polestar all.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Congrats! That's awesome! Once you go EV, it's like a drug that won't let you go back. My wife drives a 2020 Hyundai Ioniq, it only has 138 hp, but it's smoother than any 4 cylinder with 200 hp due to its instant torque and zero NVH. It's on a three year lease, but I got it so cheap before all the price gouging I'm going to buy it out and give it to my son
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Congrats dojoman! Really like the i4 for what it is. Similar packaging as they both wedged EV into existing ICE platforms. Only had brief spins in the i4 and iX but really enjoyed them.
Thanks! I had a hella of a time getting one since I didn’t order E40 but I ordered M50 which hasn’t got allocation. I bought E40 from a cancelled order from a forum member. It’s so much fun to drive and iDrive 8 is very snappy, wireless CarPlay comes on a few seconds of turning on the car.
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On a less controversial note (I hope), next Thursday I'll be heading back to SoCal in my Polestar to help my daughter move back home from college. She doesn't have that much stuff, so don't need to take the Sienna, I'll put my back seats down to load her belongings.

There's also a possibility that I will meet with one of my fellow Polestar owners at a dragstrip in Irwindale. Maybe do a few runs, see how she does against other cars. Not set in stone yet. If end up going, I'll post my times, wins and losses
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Air down slightly for more mechanical grip and a ratio advantage off the line, don't bother with a burnout on street tires. What do you I have on the car currently?
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Air down slightly for more mechanical grip and a ratio advantage off the line, don't bother with a burnout on street tires. What do you I have on the car currently?
I have Michelin Primacy summer tires. Pretty good grip. I would definitely bring the air down some
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I have Michelin Primacy summer tires. Pretty good grip. I would definitely bring the air down some
Cool, take them down 2-2.5 psi per every 10 cold psi your car calls for. If you really want to cheat remove some front toe, is there any way to tell the battery to condition for max discharge temp and cell balance? I know you can do it on a DIY EV controller but I'm not sure if they allow anything like a home brew setup....

For RC stuff I'm obsessive about discharge consistency cell to cell in the packs, unfortunately I always run EV stuff too hard and pop wires/traces from heat. I stopped doing it a few years back since I'm so type A I just had to have the fastest and just got stupid. Also got tired of how predicable it became, it got to the point people knew who would win based on just the parts.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Cool, take them down 2-2.5 psi per every 10 cold psi your car calls for. If you really want to cheat remove some front toe, is there any way to tell the battery to condition for max discharge temp and cell balance? I know you can do it on a DIY EV controller but I'm not sure if they allow anything like a home brew setup....

For RC stuff I'm obsessive about discharge consistency cell to cell in the packs, unfortunately I always run EV stuff too hard and pop wires/traces from heat. I stopped doing it a few years back since I'm so type A I just had to have the fastest and just got stupid. Also got tired of how predicable it became, it got to the point people knew who would win based on just the parts.
Thanks for the tip. My friend does the dragstrip frequently, I think he discharges his batteries to 70 percent. He'll give me the tips to get the fastest times. Polestars battery cooling is very good, so heating shouldn't be an issue. He usually does about 10 runs before he calls it a day
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Thanks for the tip. My friend does the dragstrip frequently, I think he discharges his batteries to 70 percent. He'll give me the tips to get the fastest times. Polestars battery cooling is very good, so heating shouldn't be an issue. He usually does about 10 runs before he calls it a day
Wait, 70% SOC produces the fastest times??
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Wait, 70% SOC produces the fastest times??
No, it properly conditions the battery so it's at optimal temperature. If he's at 80 percent, he'll get it to 70 percent. This is too get good launches. That's my understanding
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Wait, 70% SOC produces the fastest times??
You don't want the cells too cold for max instant output, there is a range they like best just like an engine.
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Wait, 70% SOC produces the fastest times??
no, it's so he'll have enough range left after to get home.
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no, it's so he'll have enough range left after to get home.
Haha you got me . Luckily there's an EA near there, but I could go down to about 20 percent and make it back to my brother's house and then bum free electricity from him.

The first trip I made to my brother's house, when I got there he asked me if I carried extra Duracell's. Please, not from my own brother....
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Yesterday my wife finally drove my Polestar for the first time. She has been reluctant to drive it for a few reasons. Putting it in gear confused her, the idea of a car you just sit in the car and drive (no start button) made her nervous, and lastly she was afraid of how much power and instant torque it has. She actually once threatened to get out of the car while it's moving when I joked to her I was going to floor it LOL! The instant torque scares the bejesus out of her. I explained to her that if she steps on the throttle normally, it will drive normal. The throttle is modulated in such a way as you have to press hard to prevent you hitting the person in front of you from a stop or in stop n go traffic.

She now loves the car after finally driving it now that she overcame her fear of the unknown. She mentioned to me today if I end up replacing her Ioniq with a Model 3 or Model Y she wants to take the Polestar. Fine with me

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Here's a review from Carscoops of an Australian 2023 Polestar 2 Dual Motor. Although it's pretty much the same as the 2022, the range has been improved through battery optimization

"Not only does the Polestar 2 feel like a better overall package than the Tesla Model 3 but it is also one of the finest EVs that money can buy"

Driven: 2023 Polestar 2 Long Range Dual Motor Is Worthy Of The Hype

BY BRAD ANDERSON | POSTED ONAUGUST 28, 2022

The Polestar 2 is a very interesting vehicle. Not only does it come from a Swedish company that most people have never heard of but it is that brand’s first EV and yet, somehow, is perhaps the finest electric vehicle currently on sale.

Believe it or not but Polestar, a sub-brand of Volvo and Geely, has been producing the 2 since March 2020 at its Luqiao CMA Super Factory in China. In that time, it has been the subject of rave reviews in every single market where it is sold. So, eager to see just how good the EV is, we recently lived with one for a week to discover just what makes it special.



Australian sales of the Polestar 2 commenced in January 2022 where it is available in three configurations.

Sitting at the base of the range is the Polestar 2 Standard Range Single Motor and priced from AU$69,526 ($49,488) including all relevant fees, taxes, and registration costs. A Long Range Single Motor is also available and starting at AU$74,211 ($52,823) drive-away. The example we tested was the Polestar 2 Long Range Dual Motor that is priced from a very reasonable AU$79,421 ($56,531).

Our tester was more expensive as it was equipped with the AU$8,000 ($5,694) Performance package that adds 20-inch Y-spoke polished forged alloy wheels with Continental SportContact 6 tires, gold Brembo front brake calipers, drilled ventilated front brake discs, Ohlins Dual Flow Valve adjustable shock absorbers, the dynamic chassis, gold valve caps, and gold seat belts front and rear. With a total price of AU$87,421 ($62,226), it matches up nicely against the AU$86,153 ($61,323) Tesla Model 3 Long Range and easily undercuts the quicker AU$100,871 ($71,799) Model 3 Performance.





The right specs

Powering the flagship model that we tested are a pair of electric motors producing 300 kW (402 hp) and 660 Nm (487 lb-ft) of torque. However, earlier this year, the car manufacturer rolled out a software update for the car that adds an extra 50 kW (67 hp) and 20 Nm (14 lb-ft), resulting in a total of 350 kW (469 hp) and 680 Nm (502 lb-ft), figures greater than those of even the Model 3 Performance.

This added grunt means the Polestar 2 Long Range Dual Motor can hit 100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.4 seconds as opposed to the 4.7 seconds that it used to take. In addition, the 80-120 km/h (50-74 mph) sprint time has been reduced to 2.2 seconds, half a second quicker than before.

Feeding these motors with their juice is a 78 kWh battery pack. Polestar says the 2 Long Range Dual Motor is good for between 455 km (282 miles) and 487 km (302 miles) of range on the WLTP cycle, positioning it slightly ahead of the Standard Range Single Motor with its claimed 445 – 478 km (276 – 297 miles) of range and the Long Range Single Motor with a range figure sitting between 515 km (320 miles) and 551 km (342 miles).


Volvo style

Upon laying eyes on the Polestar 2 for the first time, we were immediately struck by the intriguing fastback-style shape. It is virtually identical in design to the original Volvo Concept 40.2 and, therefore, exudes the same level of suave and sophistication as existing Volvo models.

The front end is characterized by a set of striking headlights with Thor’s hammer-style LED daytime running lights. A gloss black front grille also catches the eye, as does the matter black Polestar badge on the hood of our tester. It’s certainly quite a striking car, even though most people have no idea what it is. In fact, when the City of Melbourne issued us with a parking fine for sitting in a parking space for two hours longer than permitted, the parking inspector filled out the make and model of the car as ‘Unknown.’

However, it is the rear half of the Polestar 2 that is perhaps the most intriguing. For starters, there are those bold LED taillights and lightbar, the massive C-pillars, and the surprisingly high tailgate. It all makes for a very chunky but funky design and is a breath of fresh air from some of the humdrum designs coming from Polestar’s German rivals.





Sophistication personified

Step inside the Polestar 2 and anyone who has driven a modern Volvo will immediately feel a sense of familiarity. Indeed, key parts such as the steering wheel have been lifted directly from the Volvo XC40 and that’s no bad thing. In fact, we’ve long been fans of Volvo interiors and the cabin of the 2 is a joyous place to spend time.

The entire cabin of the 2 is vegan-friendly and features a bunch of recycled materials. We’re particularly fond of the fabric used on parts of the door panels and across the transmission tunnel. Immediately catching the eye is the massive portrait-oriented 11-inch touchscreen rocking the Android Automotive operating system.





So many car manufacturers nowadays are fumbling around with developing their own infotainment systems and try as they might to persuade buyers otherwise, many just end up using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto instead. By installing the Polestar 2 with an Android operating system straight out of the box, Polestar avoids this dilemma. While iOS users may need a little time to become familiar with the system, those that use other Android devices will find it easy to navigate and the inclusion of the Google Play Store and a three year subscription to Google Services is an excellent feature. The seamless integration of the Google Assistant is also very helpful.

Elsewhere, the cabin of the Polestar 2 features a large digital instrument cluster in front of the driver. Our test car also came with the AU$6,000 ($4,270) Plus Pack that includes a 13-speaker Harman Kardon Premium sound system, fixed panoramic sunroof, Polestar’s WeaveTech seats, fully-electrically adjustable seats with lumbar support, heated rear seats, heated steering wheel, heated washer fluid wiper nozzles, energy saving heat pump, ambient lighting, wireless smartphone charging, and a tinted rear window.

As the Polestar 2 is underpinned by Volvo’s ICE-based CMA platform, there is a large transmission tunnel running through the center of the cabin. While it’s bulky, we never found it to be an issue. Found in the rear of the EV is 405 liters (14.3 cubic-feet) of cargo space, including the additional 41 liters (1.4 cubic-feet) under the false floor.





Does it perform as well as everyone claims?

The driving experience delivered by the Polestar 2 is excellent. First is the acceleration.

Fresh off the car receiving Polestar’s software upgrade, we launched the performance timing app and immediately recorded a 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) time of 4.4 seconds. This time was easily repeatable on good surfaces and even as the battery percentage dropped to single digits, the Polestar 2 didn’t slow down at all and would still consistently hit that 4.4 second mark. We also recorded 4.3 second sprints to 100 km/h on a couple of occasions.

Of course, it’s not just the acceleration that makes the 2 Long Range Dual Motor so enjoyable to drive. We found the braking performance to be excellent and while it can be a little annoying adjusting the level of regenerative braking through the touchscreen, the available one-pedal driving mode works brilliantly. Those massive Brembo brakes also do a very fine job of bringing the car to a stop.





Polestar 2 models equipped with the Performance Package come outfitted with Ohlins adjustable dampers, as mentioned. In the standard setting, these dampers provide an excellent middle ground between a firm ride and a plush ride, absorbing bumps brilliantly and always making the car feel like it is planted firmly to the ground. There are 22 settings for the dampers but as they are manually adjustable, actually tweaking the ride means you have to jack up the car, get your hands dirty, and twist the dampers to our desired specification. We suspect this is something only a small minority of owners will ever consider doing.

A true all-rounder

The overall sophistication and poise of the Polestar 2 is also very impressive. Road and wind noise have been kept to a minimum and the car feels just as home cruising down the highway as it does being hustled through a mountain road. It feels noticeably sportier than the Kia EV6 models we tested a couple of months back and is just as well-engineered as the more expensive BMW i4.





In addition to the Performance and Plus packages that our test car had, it was also equipped with the AU$3,400 ($2,420) Pilot lite package. This added LED front fog lights with a cornering function, automatically dimmed exterior mirrors, 360-degree camera, Pilot Assist, Adaptive Cruise Control, Emergency Stop Assist, Blind Sport Information system with steer assist, Cross Traffic Alert with brake support, Rear Collision Warning & Mitigation, and Park Assist.

During our time with the Polestar 2, we covered a touch over 300 km (186 miles) and averaged 23.4 kWh/100 km. That’s not particularly impressive, although we did do quite a lot of highway driving throughout the week. When driven around town, that consumption figure drops into the high teens.

Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

The electric vehicle market continues to heat up and while Tesla continues to dominate the sales race, shoppers would be wise to take note of the alternatives on offer from rival brands. Not only does the Polestar 2 feel like a better overall package than the Tesla Model 3 but it is also one of the finest EVs that money can buy.



https://www.carscoops.com/2022/08/dr...y-of-the-hype/

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