if a car is only for getting from point a to point b then everyone should drive a camry/rav4/blah blah.

but if one wants something beautifully made, or just beautiful, or fun to drive, or sounds good, etc. then it's about more than getting from point a to point b.

amirza786 may like not paying for gas with the polestar2 (see how i brought it back to the thread topic? ) but he REALLY likes the performance of the car!

 

I agree. I watch a neighbor work 3 jobs and his wife working 2 jobs and they drive two new cars making payments on both.
Guess if I had lots of extra income I'd probably splurge too but even still, the tight wad I am sometimes make me wonder how much is it costing a mile to go from point A to B.

That was smooooth. I like it!
Might have to borrow that. lol
So back to polestar, they are nice cars and people really seem to like them.

 

What I would say to people, don't put yourself in debt to own a nice car. Buy and drive what you can comfortably afford. Now back to the Polestar...I do like the gas savings, but I bought it specifically for it's performance. And the fact it doesn't need maintenance other than consumables like tires and brakes. But performance was top of the list

 

Specs have supposedly leaked on a Dutch website for the 3:

4.9m long; 2.99m wheelbase; 1.97m wide
484L trunk expanding to 1411L with seats down

111kWh battery

Dual Motor: 610km WLTP 489 hp, 840Nm 21" wheels
DM Performance Pack: 560km WLTP 519hp, 910Nm 22" wheels

Air Suspension, Bowers & Wilkins, and Brembo brakes.

https://www.autoweek.nl/autonieuws/a...-nu-al-bekend/

 

Wow, that battery pack is almost 15X of the Polestar 2. Do they really need a battery pack that size?

EDIT

Nevermind, I saw an extra "1" LOL . That would be about right for the power output and range they are going for

 

Its a bit disappointing actually if the specs are correct. Even though its way uglier, the BMW IX is bigger with more cargo room, has the same battery size, and has more power + more range.

 

I think once you hit the 400 HP plus and over 300 miles range, as long as they support 800v charging it doesn't really matter. If you need the extra cargo room, then yes, the BMW is the better choice. I just don't like the way the IX looks.

Also additional battery capacity can be released, they recently did it with the last update for my Polestar which added 10 miles more range

 

from that website a long range polestar 3 is going to be 100k

looks great though. i'd get that every time over the fugly new bmws.

 

Ugh.... pricing is not set in stone yet, hopefully it will be cheaper when it comes out. They did say are competing with Porsche...

 

I'm just going to file this under "duh"....

Polestar Cars Finds Majority of US Drivers Don’t Purchase Electric Vehicles for Environmental Reasons

• New survey reveals 55% US drivers purchase an electric car for reasons other than environmental benefits
• Almost half of respondents are open to buying an electric car from a new brand, many more than with a gasoline powered vehicle
• Generational differences affect rationale for electric car purchase

MAHWAH, N.J. (July 26, 2022) – Polestar, the Swedish premium electric performance car brand, has conducted research that has found that 55 percent of US drivers purchase electric cars for reasons other than environmental benefits. In-vehicle technology, seamless connectivity and infotainment system offerings have been named as the most important decisions for consumers switching to an electric car from an internal-combustion vehicle.



“The idea of luxury being defined by what’s ‘under the hood’ has been replaced in the electric era with the prioritization of seamless connectivity, integration into existing digital ecosystems, and good UX design,” said Gregor Hembrough, Head of Polestar North America. “People are switching to electric cars for more than just environmental reasons, and Polestar’s focus on in-vehicle technology means they can have everything they want in an environmentally friendly package.”



Polestar 2 was the first vehicle to market with the revolutionary Google-developed infotainment system. The system features Google built-in, including industry-leading voice control via Google Assistant. This enables control of functions using natural voice commands, including navigation through Google Maps, the climate system, music, phone and more.



Brand image also makes a difference to consumers based on age demographics. Fifty-seven percent of millennials (ages 25 to 40) are confident in new electric car brands compared to only 28 percent of Baby Boomers (ages 57 to 75). Nearly half (46 percent) of all respondents are more open to new brands and start-ups such as Polestar when it comes to purchasing an electric car.



Despite eco-consciousness not necessarily being a driving factor for over half of respondents, younger drivers are also much more concerned with appearing environmentally conscious compared to their older counterparts. For Gen Z respondents (ages 18-24), image is a big factor, with 12 percent saying it would be the most important consideration when choosing an electric car compared to an internal-combustion vehicle. That is twice as many as Millennials (ages 25-41), and more than three times as many as Baby Boomers ages (57-74).



To obtain this data, Polestar commissioned a third-party survey, fielded earlier this year with more than 5,000 electric and internal combustion drivers across all 50 US states. The survey questioned drivers on the state of electric car acceptance, charging infrastructure, and the perception of electric car brands when purchasing a vehicle.


Survey Methodology

This random double-opt-in survey of 5,086 American drivers was commissioned by Polestar between Jan. 5 and Jan. 26, 2022. It was conducted by market research company OnePoll, whose team members are members of the Market Research Society and have corporate membership to the American Association for Public Opinion Research (AAPOR) and the European Society for Opinion and Marketing Research (ESOMAR).

In another recent announcement, Polestar posted its financial results for the first half of 2022. The company stated it had seen record deliveries, around 21,200 cars, a 125% increase compared to the same period last year. Global orders were also up at 50,000, a 350% year-on-year improvement. In the statement, Polestar re-affirmed that it is targeting 50,000 car deliveries by the end of the year

https://media.polestar.com/us/en/med...eleases/656722

 

Same reason we got solar to be honest, we wanted control over the power flow. I couldn't care less how toxic the panels are, how the production pollutes or the fact that the panels will never make enough energy to cover what it cost to produce and ship them.

That's not my concern at all.

 

I've been seeing a bunch of Hertz commercials with the Polestar 2's



I ran into a Hertz employee driving one from SoCal to NorCal, and she told me Hertz bought the Single Motor Long Range versions

 

We're having a heatwave here in the Bay Area, so it's been in the upper 90's the last few days...today it hit 97F. Everyday for the last three days I've been logging my drive, in the morning when it's cool and in the late afternoon coming home from work when temps are hitting their peak. My interest is to find out how much more energy is drained from the Polestars battery when driving in hot weather where the AC is in use as well as energy being used for battery/electric motor cooling. I'll start with the morning drives.

Morning drive- ambient temp 65 F
Driving distance: 5.1 Miles
HVAC/Heating- No
Average speed: 50 mph
No highway driving
Total consumption: 1.13 kWh

Evening drive- ambient temp 95 F
Driving distance: 5.1 Miles
HVAC/Heating- AC set at 68 F, fan speed 40 percent
Average speed: 50 mpg
No highway driving
Total consumption: 1.9 kWh

Power consumption in hot weather with HVAC use and additional battery cooling used up to an additional .78 kWh. I am consuming an additional 10 to 15 kWh energy on hot days over 100 miles, another way to put this is I'm dropping from 3.4 miles per kWh to around 2.8 miles per kWh. Please note that this was all normal everyday commute with some spirited driving mixed in. On long trips with different road and traffic conditions these number could be slightly different. Next time I do a long trip I'll make sure to log it

 

Nicely done Amirza786.

I can see why they use kwh instead of HP because it's a more accurate way to represent actual power used and easily converted to other calcuation & conversion systems.
May get some criticism for ths but that's ok, just posting this up off top of my head so not guaranteeing any accuracy, just for fun.

If we can just assume/imagine from the numbers above at 50mph for 5 miles(speed constant) we have rougly 1/10 hours of driving, if I read that correctly.

If 750 watts ~= 1hp
if 1.13 kwh ~= 1.5 hp *hours
So if 1,5 hp*hours is spent in 1/10th hour(5 miles at 50 mph) it looks like the car only needs (10 * 1.5)= 15 hp to drive, that is some amazing efficiency.

With AC on(1.9kwh), only approx 25hp.
AC uses up 10 HP, that can't be right, hmmm maybe it is I don't know.
I understand using hp is a horible way to calculate power needed to push a car and working off top of my head & sleepy so prob botched that up bad but just posting for fun.

PS- from these numbers, in theory if I run my 1100 watt hair dryer for 1.7 hours- that would be equivlent to driving this car 5 miles or 10 minutes with ac on.

 

I'm not very good at these calculations, but just to let you know the AC compressor is also used to manage battery temp. Normally you can't hear the compressor, but when temps start hitting the upper 90's you start hearing it. The compressor lines run under the battery packs, keeping them cool (in addition, they are also liquid cooled). From my last trip to Southern California, I lost about 10 miles of range